Name:	lucky67 -	Reply
Subject:	Dow jones
Date:	2/21/2017 4:09:06 PM

is up 13.3% since trump elected

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Dow jones
Date:	2/21/2017 6:02:12 PM

MAGA 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Be wary
Date:	2/22/2017 8:23:27 AM

The stock market ups and downs are mostly an emotional reflection of optimism or pessimism.  The markets are baking in a roll back of the regulatory state, continued low interest rates and inflation, repeal and replacement of Obamacare and significant tax reform.  To the extent these initiatives stall or don't have the desired impact on earnings there will be a correction.  So if the President wants to take credit for the uptick he will be set up to take the blame for the correction.  And if that happens at the wrong time it could be electorially disastrous.  As would the next recession which is long overdue.

Name:	lucky67 -	Reply
Subject:	Be wary
Date:	2/22/2017 9:39:50 AM

talk about stradling the fence !

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Be wary
Date:	2/22/2017 10:25:42 AM

Not in the least an my point is very simple.  The markets go up and down and the current president and their policies may have an influence but don't dictate market swings.  So to the extent you want to give Trump credit for the upswing you will likewise have to have him take ownership of any correction.  One is coming.  They always happen.  There is no doubt in my mind that he is having a positive influence based on what he says he will do.  Let's hope he accomplishes half of what he says and if he does it will help the markets.  But a recession when it happens regardless of what he does will have a negative effect on the markets.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Be wary
Date:	2/22/2017 12:21:22 PM

And with the right policies etc in place that downturn can be a while in coming, or with the wrong policies and regulations in place it can downturn or stagnate quickly.

Time will tell what his policies are.

Name:	lucky67 -	Reply
Subject:	Dow jones
Date:	2/22/2017 1:18:48 PM

martini: i want giving TRUMP credit, just citing a statistic--as a former bond trader, I am very aware of market up's & down's; a flat market is a traders worst nightmare

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Gotcha
Date:	2/22/2017 3:35:34 PM

I misunderstood what you were saying.  We spent the last 8 years listening to Obama take credit for the markets and other fanciful thinking and I hope the current administration doesn't make the same mistake.  He has a Fed that may not be nearly as interested in preserving his reelection chances.  And the Fed can do real damage to the markets and the economy as they move away from cheap money.  Of course they will take the rest of the economy with them.  The sad reality is that when the next recession hits, and I cannot imagine it won't in the next 4 years, they will have very few options to soften the landing.  You only need to look at Japan to see how cheap money from the BOJ has pretty much prevented them from responding in a positive way.

And I had to laugh when you said traders hate a static market.  That is so very true and most people can't understand why.

Name:	lucky67 -	Reply
Subject:	Gotcha
Date:	2/22/2017 4:31:17 PM

I have long been a supporter  of disolving the FED--do very little, most economic data they release is revised the next month, so highly innacurate,  no members have any practical  lending experience, but like to be quoted & cause dissention among members

Name:	lucky67 -	Reply
Subject:	Gotcha
Date:	2/22/2017 4:35:55 PM

most dangerous aspect i see to the markets is the deficit; if DRT could develop a plan to start reducing the deficit, i think economy could skyrocket