Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Riot in Charlottesville
Date:	8/12/2017 1:37:42 PM

The governor of Virginia just declared a state of emergency and Police declared "unlawful assembly" in a protest over a Confederate Statue, and it's potential removal.  The Klu Klux Klan, neo-nazis and other white nationalists group clashed with Black Lives Matter and other folks are fighting about the removal of the statue.  Now, I don't support the Klan, neo-Nazis or any white nationalist groups. But it gets me thinking - these statues have probably been in place for decades.  I suppose people have been walking by these statues for decades and have never given them much thought. Then suddenly comes along Black Lives Matter and other agitators and now they all have to come down.  Like most people, I never would support slavery or anything like it.  But for the life of me, I can't understand why the statues MUST be removed.  To some people, that is their heritage, some of the Confederate Generals are known for their bravery in battle.  So why must these statues be removed now?  To appease BLM and another segment of our society that would like to pretend that sliavery never existed?  Do they think we can cut out the history of our country and pretend like it never happened.  It's not like anyone is proposing to bring slavery back. 

It would seem to me in the Black Community that there are far more pressing issues than the removal of some hunks of granite that have been sitting there for decades - if not 100 years.  I have an on-going discussion with a black friend about this and in the end, we always agree to disagree. 

Name:	HARRY -	Reply
Subject:	Riot in Charlottesville
Date:	8/12/2017 11:13:00 PM

I'm sure that the good black citizens would agree that there are far more important issues that need addressing. The BLM is nothing more than haters and agitators most of whom don't even know what they are protesting. 

Name:	Shortbus -	Reply
Subject:	Riot in Charlottesville
Date:	8/12/2017 11:22:55 PM

GONNA TAKE A WHOLE BUNCH OF SKILLED AND NON-LAZY BLM FOLKS TO ERASE STONE MOUNTAIN................................................

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Riot in Charlottesville
Date:	8/13/2017 9:16:20 AM

  The reality is the "alt-right" protestors"that had a permit. It was challenged in court and the judge ruled they had a legal permit and absolute right to their rally. The BLM and antifa had no such permit. Therefor the the place should have protected the rally and not allowed any "anti" anything close to the rally. They should have protected the peaceful, lawful, permitted rally. Who among us doesn't belive that if the situation were reversed no anti-protest would have made it anywhere near the BLM rally. There would have been "free speech zones" set up well away from the rally and and anti-protest folks would have been herded into them, not allowed to wreck havoc on a legal rally, much less allowed to attack cops. McCauliff would have had the National Guard to to protect the BLM. Only enough of the and-protesters, AKA according to the media "white sumpremist", would be allowed to get a good video clip and sound bite for TV to "prove" they are racist.

  Even FOX News was referring to them as white Supreme st this morning. Wanting to protect the white heritage is not white supremacy.revisionist history is the real danger to this country. Today's politics looks just like Orwells 1984. Animal Farm is another good comparison. We are created equal, but some (politicians and elites) are apparently more equal in America today.

  Whether one thinks the original rally was right, wrong or indifferent it was permitted and legal and should have been protected. But that wouldn't fit with Governor slimeballs agenda. I hope the permit holders sue. The proof of the agendas is what happened after violence broke out. The right called on its supporters to disperse and the left just kept up the attack, after there was no rally to protest. Even if I don't agree with what you say, I will defend your right to say it, as long as it is done peacefully.

Name:	CAT BOAT -	Reply
Subject:	Riot in Charlottesville
Date:	8/13/2017 9:18:59 AM

Hound, I must say, that is well put.  If only everyone could see it that way.  People act in certain ways, even knowing that it is inappropriate.  If they could watch themselves, and realize that the devil has a firm grip on there lives.  How refreshing it is to live in total piece.  And, there is only one way to get that peace.  (you know the answer)

Name:	Moldyoldy -	Reply
Subject:	Riot in Charlottesville
Date:	8/13/2017 3:56:15 PM

You are absolutely correct, lifer. George Orwell was prescient. It disgusts me to see how politicians and the media distort facts and spew propoganda. Media says that the "right wingers" came with helmets and shields, so obviously they intended to fight not protest. What a crock, they knew they would get no protection from the democrat msyor, so they brought some protection. The only innocents were the right wing protestors. Blm, mayor, governor, and other officials are just a mob of thugs. But millions of people will believe the lies, because they are too corrupt or stupid to use logic and see the truth.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Riot in Charlottesville
Date:	8/13/2017 5:04:20 PM (updated 8/13/2017 5:07:36 PM)

There is NOTHING innocent about a crowd of men carrying loaded guns on their belts and swastikas on their arms while full throatedly shouting ''blood and soil'' and ''heil Trump''...even if they are all doing so ''peacefully''!!!  They have the right to do it, but they are NOT innocents!!

Talk about ''stupidity'' and failure to see logic...God save the USA!!

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Riot in Charlottesville
Date:	8/13/2017 5:23:50 PM

They had a permit to rally - so my question is why Charlottesville grant them the permit?  This Alt right does not represent me at all, but the first Amendment works both ways, even when you don't like the message. 

I never did hear how many people were there, what the affliation of the guy that hit pedestrians was, and why were the neo-Nazis parading in the streets the night before. 

Name:	Moldyoldy -	Reply
Subject:	Riot in Charlottesville
Date:	8/13/2017 5:24:00 PM

Ok Archie. Let's do it your way and not allow people who disagree with you to speak their mind.  See how long it is until YOU are forcibly silenced.

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	First of all archy
Date:	8/13/2017 7:21:33 PM

  You proved you are a racist so anything you say is summarily ignored by folks who don't see everything through a prism of skin color. Now I want you to post a link of the supposed names heavily armed and in body armor chanting those remarks. I watched a couple of hours of news this morning and didn't see any such thing and God knows if it happened it would be 24/7 on the idiot box. Guv McAwful is being challenged on his remark the 80‰ of the all-night was carrying semi auto assault weapons. So far no evidence for that statistic either. Aren't those weapons supposed to be illegal in VA? I know McAwful certainly wants them to be.

  Since I posted this morning more FACTS have come out. The leader of the legal rally has stated that they worked with local and state police on security plans FOR MONTHS prior to the event, but it was totally ignored. The anti protestors"that were supposed to be kept well away from the park where the LEGAL RALLY was to be held. But we all know they weren't even confronted because the Leo's were ordered to stay Inside the barricade until the riot was well under way. The supposed plan is written so there want be any he said/they said issues.

  Now lets say McAwful did manage to slip and actually tell the truth, although I don't think he is capable of it. So we have hundreds, if not thousands, of rally attendees with assault rifles. I would bet that every one of them was purchased legally, but no matter, not a one was fired. Now I'm supposed to believe the liberal scum showed up with no weapons. Highly unlikely, and what do you think would have happened if there weren't armed folks around with better weapons and surely better training? The gutless b@stards only shoot when they think nobody else is armed.

  You reinforce your idiot label every time you post. You have also proven your racism. You should be ashamed to ever come back here after that post. But not you. No sir?! You double down on stupid. Not even an apology to those offended, no sorry I misspoke, NOTHING! Because as a liberal idiot you don't even see it as racism to point out you never even felt threatened or danger from the BLACK man whose property butts up to yours in the back. Come on archy, please try to defend that statement. I dare you. But as a chicken sh!t Democrat I know you won't. The rest of us k ow it to be indefensible, but you and your fellow travelers just see it as normal. Copper, rich and Rhh may try to defend it because they are idiots too but I would bet you can't even get goofy to defend that one. Now go around the block and apologize to your black neighbor for the racist comment.

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Riot in Charlottesville
Date:	8/13/2017 9:32:12 PM

"Stupidity and failure to see logic", gosh, Archie, it is as if you are describing yourself.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Riot in Charlottesville
Date:	8/14/2017 8:33:19 AM

Mr. H, I am no longer surprised that you would seize the opportunity to belittle me with a comment centered on the last part of my post while failing to comment on the main premisis stated at the beginning.  As your current leader would say ''sad, so sad''.

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	You proved your racism
Date:	8/14/2017 9:09:21 AM

So why should anyone listen to anything you say. STFU 

  And yes I plan to follow s many of your posts as I can with a reminder to everyone what a liberal racist you really are. There is an old axiom you should learn, if you are actually capable of learning which I doubt. "Say it forget it, write it regret it".

THat post will always be here for reference if you are anyone chooses to challenge  my assertion. It will be good entertainment for me. I'm easily entertained, especially when trying liberals.

     YOU ARE A RACIST PIG.

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Riot in Charlottesville
Date:	8/14/2017 9:51:59 AM

Not much to say about the rest of your post, other than you expressed an opinion different from Moldy.  Of course we will never know whether they would have peacefully protested to its planned end because those who disagree with them didn't give them that chance.  Had you stopped after your first paragraph your post would have been OK.  But no, YOU are the one who attempted to belittle others and all I said was look in the mirror when you spew your obvious holier than thou hatred.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Riot in Charlottesville
Date:	8/16/2017 2:03:07 PM (updated 8/16/2017 2:07:57 PM)

Name:   architect  -  Subject:   Riot in Charlottesville Date:   8/13/2017 5:04:20 PM (updated 8/13/2017 5:07:36 PM)

There is NOTHING innocent about a crowd of men carrying loaded guns on their belts and swastikas on their arms while full throatedly shouting ''blood and soil'' and ''heil Trump''...even if they are all doing so ''peacefully''!!!  They have the right to do it, but they are NOT innocents!!

Talk about ''stupidity'' and failure to see logic...God save the USA!!

Glad to know that you only allow 1st amendment protections to speech you approve of.  

As repugnant as the KKK /white power groups are  - their right to assemble and say stupid crap is protected and thank you for adding that they were saying horrible things "peacefully!!!" and that you object to allowing them their constitutional rights based on the fact that you disagree with them.  If everyone agreed on every topic there would be no need for 1st amendment protections.

2nd amendment protects carrying loaded weapons or else they would have been arrested for carrying - What I find amusing is that you are decrying them their right to have a weapon based on what they are saying, and nothing about the fact that not one round was fired when the situation became violent.  So you dont want people who have a differing viewpoint to have constitutionally protected rights - selective rights like when you agree with them - Talk about "stupidity and failure to see logic"  

What is not protected is showing up with bats, sticks, mace and attempting to stop others from having constitutionally protected rights - free speech, assembly regardless of if you agree with the message or not.  

Heil Archie - Supreme leader of what is acceptable and allowed "even if they are doing so peacefully".   4 legs good 2 legs baddddddd.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Riot in Charlottesville
Date:	8/19/2017 10:51:27 PM (updated 8/19/2017 11:11:56 PM)

Even with my post repeated as your preamble, your response makes it obvious that you either did not read it or you read it but did not  understand its point!

Let put it in simpler terms:

1/   If you are a KKK member or a Neo-nazi in the USA you have the right to peacefully assemble and make your point but having that right and exercizing does not make you a good person or a good citizen. 

2/   What kind of human being that knows any of the history of what transpired between 1933 and 1945 has a problem with me or anybody else saying being a nazi is not something you want to highlight on your resume?

3/   Having the ''right'' to be a nazi or KKKer doesn't mean they are among the ''right'' groups to be part of!

4/   As an American the right to free speech is unrestricted to the entire political spectrum from the anarchist left to the fascistic right.  In other words, I have exactly the same right to peacefully use free speech as you are any of the other 300 million plus Americans.

Now Philip, what part of 1,2,3 or 4 above do you disagree with?

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Riot in Charlottesville
Date:	8/20/2017 8:51:23 PM

YOur can't pick and choose you racist, among those rights granted by the creator, not government is the right to peaceably assemble. All right are absolute. They were peaceful UN the police forced them to run a gauntlet of violent anarchists. Then they were attacked.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Riot in Charlottesville
Date:	8/21/2017 8:44:15 AM

Even with my post repeated as your preamble, your response makes it obvious that you either did not read it or you read it but did not  understand its point!

Let put it in simpler terms:

1/   If you are a KKK member or a Neo-nazi in the USA you have the right to peacefully assemble and make your point but having that right and exercizing does not make you a good person or a good citizen. 

2/   What kind of human being that knows any of the history of what transpired between 1933 and 1945 has a problem with me or anybody else saying being a nazi is not something you want to highlight on your resume?

3/   Having the ''right'' to be a nazi or KKKer doesn't mean they are among the ''right'' groups to be part of!

4/   As an American the right to free speech is unrestricted to the entire political spectrum from the anarchist left to the fascistic right.  In other words, I have exactly the same right to peacefully use free speech as you are any of the other 300 million plus Americans.

Now Philip, what part of 1,2,3 or 4 above do you disagree with?

I disagree with none of the above, but you seem to be leaving out the police stand down and the equally guilty people in masks who came to attack the KKK/Nazi/ and some reporters who reported being attacked by AntiFA!!!!

1 nor does being in antifa or BLM make you a good person

2. So antifa and BLM is a resume enhancer in your opinion?

I stand by my origional arguements - you have yet to denounce the people who showed up to stop a legally permitted rally to shut down there 1st amendment.