Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Some perspective on the latest smear campaign
Date:	6/18/2018 1:49:49 PM (updated 6/18/2018 1:50:45 PM)

Where was the outrage then?  Oh wait, that was under Obama.

From New York Magazine:

The United States government placed an unknown number of Central American migrant children into the custody of human traffickers after neglecting to run the most basic checks on these so-called “caregivers,” according to a Senate report released on Thursday.

In the fall of 2013, tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors traveled to the U.S. southern border, in flight from poverty and gang violence in Central America. At least six of those children were eventually resettled on an egg farm in Marion, Ohio, where their sponsors forced them to work 12 hours a day under threats of death. Local law enforcement uncovered the operation last year, prompting the Senate’s Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations to open an inquiry into the federal government’s handling of migrants.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Some perspective on the latest smear campaign
Date:	6/18/2018 3:01:52 PM

Because Trump is a time traveling Hitler who went back in time and changed the Obama policies and put kids in cages just to make Obama look bad and the liberals know this to be all Trumps fault and would never place blame for anything on Obama, but has to use the Joy Reid time traveling hackers to make sure that things that happened under Obama are actually Trumps fault.

Trump is probably responsible for this one as well, or maybe the time travel only goes back a few years and can not reach back that far.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Some perspective on the latest smear campaign
Date:	6/18/2018 3:27:04 PM

What is sickening in this latest distraction from all the good news on the economy is that if I as a parent am arrested for breaking a law and have my kids in tow guess what happens?  They take the kids away from me and place them in protective custody.  Why illegal immigrants that are breaking the law think they should be treated any differently is beyond me.  Why Demoncrats, RINOs and the govt media are suddenly making a big deal out of something that we have done for a long, long time is totally transparent to me.  And the good news is that it will not work.  We will not be distracted from all the good things happening.  This is just more fake news and yet another in a long line of examples about the double standard and hypocrisy on the left.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Some perspective on the latest smear campaign
Date:	6/18/2018 3:31:23 PM

They have to have something negative to say because they know they can not use the economy, GDP, unemployment or pretty much any topic.

All they have left is illegal immigration, abortion and Trump is "evil".  Its what they are willing to plant their flag on.

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	Some perspective on the latest smear campaign
Date:	6/18/2018 3:53:51 PM

Border Patrol should get a bunch of old unairconditioned school buses and load these criminals up and immediately back south.  Unload them all at the Panama Canal and let‘ em find their own way home.  As an alternative, ship ‘em all to Venezuela.  We owe these people NOTHING.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Some perspective on the latest smear campaign
Date:	6/18/2018 9:43:03 PM

I have bleen watching the media and liberals whipping this into a frenzy.  When one of my liberal friends does the "ain't it awful"?, I ask them what would they do with these children?  Put them in the cell with their parents?  There is nothing wrong with how they are being treated - they are seperated by age and gender, they have a place to sleep, they are getting food to eat, and they are supervised.  I do not know why people are blaming Trump for this - he's merely enforcing the immgration laws.  Why not blame the parents who put their children in this siutation?  If they weren't trying to illegally enter our country, and stayed in their own countries, they wouldn't be seperated.  They should stay in their own country and work to make that country a place where they can live.  

Name:	HARRY -	Reply
Subject:	Some perspective on the latest smear campaign
Date:	6/18/2018 10:35:05 PM

Many times when single parents are arrested their children are placed in foster care by child protective services. Why no outrage about this.

Name:	RHH -	Reply
Subject:	Some perspective on the latest smear campaign
Date:	6/19/2018 6:45:50 AM

Hound,once again, drops her facade of “moderation” to show her true self. Just a tad more educated and open minded than Wix and the rest of the forum good old boys. 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Some perspective on the latest smear campaign
Date:	6/19/2018 8:43:31 AM

Imagine that.  She believes in our govt enforcing the laws as written and that instead of invading our country they ought to stay home and fix theirs.  What a radical concept.

Name:	Old Diver -	Reply
Subject:	Viva Illegals!
Date:	6/19/2018 10:30:11 AM

  The Democrooks are far more interested in protecting the interest of illegals than the people who voted them in office. They know that more and more American voters are getting fed up with them so now they have to import legions welfare ticks to reliably vote for them. People are finally realizing what happens when liberals take over a organization, a college, a city, a state, or a country. If anyone knows a place they have sucessfully run anything ( unless their aim is it's destruction ) please let me know.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Viva Illegals!
Date:	6/19/2018 10:50:44 AM

It's a different dynamic than in Europe.  Over there they are forced to import labor to pay for their socialism because of the negative population growth in most of those countries.  Here the Dems are trying to import votes because liberals are likewise contracepting and aborting themselves into oblivion.  They need a large underclass that will always vote to rob Peter to pay Pedro.  And of course the liberal elite like the cheap labor and love to virtue signal.  It is all so cynical and disgusting.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Some perspective on the latest smear campaign
Date:	6/19/2018 11:03:20 AM

At one point in my life, I spent quite a bit of time in Central American countries.  People have this notion that these countries are broadly impoverished and these people are seeking a better life.  The truth is that most of the illegals trying to enter our country have no skills, other than being able to do manual labor.  They have families larger than they can afford, they want to come hear, make what would be considered a living wage in their country,  most of them work tax free and send those tax free dollar home, spending very, very little of it in teh country where they earned it.  This idea that all these illegals come here and become business owners is just not typical.  Most of these Central American countries have huge tourist industry so it is not that they are impoverished, but there is a lot of corruption in their governments.  As far as the gang violence, on the whole, their culture is violent, there is a lot of crime; but then, look at our culture and you could stay the same.  What they have done, is brought their violent gang culture to this country.  If you look at communities with a high hispanic immigrant population, you will see a high crime rate.

I lived through an "immigration crisis" when I lived in Northern VA.  When there was a building boom, they came and took over communities.  Some managed to find full time jobs in construction, but quite a few hung out at the convenience stores hoping to find a day labor job.  And on Friday nights, there would be a long line at the Bodaga, wiring their wages back to their families in the countries they came from.  They did not come here to have a life here, or integrate themselves in communities.  Sometimes they would rent a house with 20 people living there.