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Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Definition of A Real Loser
Date:   11/10/2018 4:07:29 PM

Trump just lost support from all patriotic veterans. After all his talk about veterans, alittlle rain and he could not pay his respect to the 1,800 who died  and were left behind in France. You may support him but this is really pathetic.

'President Donald Trump traveled thousands of miles to Paris on Friday to join in with other world leaders at events commemorating the 100th anniversary of the end of World War I.

But a bit of rain on Saturday kept him from one of the solemn gatherings ? and his no-show prompted a chorus of scorn.

Trump skipped a planned visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery, with a White House statement citing “scheduling and logistical difficulties caused by the weather” for the decision.

The cemetery is the final resting place of many of the 1,800 American soldiers killed in the battle of Belleau Wood."

 




Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Definition of A Real Loser
Date:   11/10/2018 4:37:05 PM

So what?





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Definition of A Real Loser
Date:   11/10/2018 5:12:10 PM

"So what?"  Just an indication of how a draft dodger really views those who died for this country. Is that clear?





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Definition of A Real Loser
Date:   11/10/2018 6:28:08 PM

No.  Of the present and four immediate past Presidents, which have served in the military?





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Definition of A Real Loser
Date:   11/10/2018 8:41:42 PM

Bush 43 is one of my heroes and served in the military. By the way, while Obama never served in the military, he visited the cemetary  8 times during his presidency. 

 





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   Definition of A Real Loser...........
Date:   11/10/2018 8:55:15 PM

GOOF-IDIOT.    





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   GF
Date:   11/10/2018 9:36:57 PM

I wonder what the reaction of the ''average'' member of this forum would have have been if this stunt had been pulled by the immediate past president?!!





Name:   lakngulf - Email Member
Subject:   GF
Date:   11/10/2018 10:07:12 PM

Would not have known about it.  Media silent.

 And that would have been good.  Now going on an America APOLOGY Tour would be a different story 





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Yeah sure LOL!
Date:   11/10/2018 10:37:20 PM





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Yeah sure LOL!
Date:   11/10/2018 10:41:50 PM

Weak, Archie.  Looks like you have been taking lessons from the Goofy school of inane non-answers.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Mr H
Date:   11/11/2018 9:02:04 AM (updated 11/11/2018 9:04:58 AM)

Do you agree with LnG's actual ''inane'' answer that If Obama pulled such a stunt we wouldn't even hear about it because the media wouldn't report it?  If you do then I leave you with 2 words then rest my case...''FOX NEWS''!

Yeah sure, LOL

 





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Definition of A Real Loser
Date:   11/11/2018 10:45:58 AM

Poor Goofy suffers from raging TDS.  He spends his retirement scouring the internet for negative stories about Trump to justify his mental illness.  I have encouraged him to seek mental health counseling but it's not covered by Medicare so he refuses to pay out of pocket to get treatment.  





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Mr H
Date:   11/11/2018 11:07:19 AM

If the MSM doesn't report it does that mean it didn't happen?





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Definition of A Real Loser...........
Date:   11/11/2018 12:02:18 PM

Just one of a number of memorial celebrations in Paris this weekend.  He made the big one.  Is it really so important that he personally lay a wreath at the cemetary of WWI vets?  I notice that the liberal press is trying to extrapolate all kinds of negative messages from his not doing this one thing.  He sent Gen (R) John Kelly and the current Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in his stead for the photo op.  

He personally attended to the one today at the Arch.  Does that make him suddenly a big supporter of the military?  I would say that his massive increases to Defense spending says more about how he feels about the military, than him going to a cemetery to lay a wreath in the rain for the photo op.  Do you even know what WWI was about????

I don't care if Obama visited the cemetery 100 times - he cut military spending and therefore cut money to spend on veteran's health care, and he came with a new forumula to ensure that retired military members would not get a cost of living adjustment to their pay.  He also sponored a huge reduction in force in the military personnel - those cutting out a generation of Captains and Majors to fill future leadership positions.  So don't try to convince me that Obama was a bigger supporter of the military.  And if Hillary got in???  She and Bill had a long and storied hatred of the military, in both word and deed.  Do you know they had to Order military members to the front door of the Pentagon to greet Bill Clinton, because otherwise no one would go?  I was working there at the time, and saw it with my own eyes.

 





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Mr H
Date:   11/11/2018 2:40:10 PM

I know Fox would deny they are part of the Mainstream Media (or what Gov Palin declared as the ''Lame Stream Media'') but whether they or you like it or not any network with the viewership Fox boasts is part of the ''Mainstream Media''.  If Obama had been a no show at a patriotic event honoring the Americans who gave their lives for this nation in WW 1 you can bet the farm Fox would have let the world know over and over and over and over 24 / 7 for days and days days and days!!!

Now if Fox didn't exist an Obama no show would be reported by even Palin's Lame Stream Media...after all, there were lots of witnesses!

Sorry our president is so much more fragile than the leaders of France, Germany and the UK who managed to make it to the observances at their cemetaries in spite of the rain!

Face, Trump is an egomanical coward!





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   OK Hound
Date:   11/11/2018 2:46:24 PM

you have made your point.  Thank you.

Now, do you agree with me that had Obama been a no show at a similar event this forum would have exploded in scathing condemnation?

I await your reply.





Name:   lakngulf - Email Member
Subject:   OK Hound
Date:   11/11/2018 3:16:21 PM

Surely you gest.   We don't get excited over non non events.  Yes I meant both nons 





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   OK Hound and LnG
Date:   11/11/2018 5:43:07 PM

Tell how many of those boys laying in those graves in France you think didn't show up for battle because it was raining.  Trump is a disgrace to his office!!





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Mr H
Date:   11/11/2018 6:03:49 PM

I guess you draw pictures of buildings because you failed reading comprehension. And no, Fox isn't part of the MSM.  Their viewership is so large because even with a right wing slant it is still more truthful than the traditional MSM and a viable alternative for those really wanting to know the truth.  I repeat my question since your abject hatred of DJT didn't allow you to consider it.

If the MSM doesn't report it does that mean it didn't happen?





Name:   Lifer - Email Member
Subject:   OK Hound and LnG
Date:   11/11/2018 6:49:42 PM

Yes he should have shown up after some poor intern went out and painted some rocks and left them in the perfect spot for him to "find" and place in the shape of a cross and pretend it was a spontaneous event.

/sarcasm OFF





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   OK Hound and LnG
Date:   11/11/2018 7:02:29 PM

And did the Presidents immediatley after the end of WWI visit those cemeteries?  And what about other U.S. Presidents along the way?  We don't know, because most people didn't care if the PResident visited the graves.  My grandfather fought in WWI, and i'm not offended, nor would he be.  It's only liberals and lemmings that worry over such things.

You know this is what has turned me against liberalism - it is all about the photo op, about being PC, about Nancy Pelosi worrying about how they are going to keep the Mueller investigation going, and letting immigrants pour into this country.  It's not about getting things done.  





Name:   lakngulf - Email Member
Subject:   OK Hound and LnG
Date:   11/11/2018 8:06:58 PM

Ditto. Well said but poorly heard by some





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Yes Hound
Date:   11/11/2018 9:25:01 PM (updated 11/11/2018 9:28:38 PM)

at least Woodrow Wilson did immediately after the war and it was headline news all over the world and he received universal praise for the visit.  Harry Truman and Dwight Eisenhower and Jack Kennedy visited cemetaries of both WW l and WW ll (on some of the visits there was driving rain).  Ronald Reagan made a much heralded visit to WW ll sites on the 40th anniversary of the end of the war and Bill Clinton did the same on the 50th anniversary of the Normandy Invasion!! ALL of these visits and others had close and heavy coverage by ALL the media of ALL political stripes that were available at the time they occured!!

Fine if you support Trump's agenda go for it, knock your self out, but face it, as a decent human being worthy of any respect from anybody Trump is an absolute  and abject failure by any measure possible!!





Name:   Buteye - Email Member
Subject:   Yes Hound
Date:   11/11/2018 9:52:42 PM

I think it is very important that we know which visits were made during "driving rainstorms".





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Yes Hound
Date:   11/11/2018 10:14:01 PM

Trump is NOT an absolute and abject failure by MANY accounts.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Definition of A Real Loser...........
Date:   11/12/2018 8:27:08 AM

Of course we understand that for liberals, it's not what they actully do that counts.  For them it's better that he make the photo op while he guts the military than for Trump who skips one of twenty photo ops while he takes care of our servicemen and women.  Yes, they are that stupid and venial.





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Yes Hound
Date:   11/12/2018 1:47:46 PM

Yes, tell us about the ones in the driving rain.  All of those souls that died over a hundred years ago have long settled in peace.  There are many ways, beyond a ceremonial photo op, to honor their sacrifice.  And I personally believe that Trump has ticked a lot of those boxes.  If that is not enough for liberals and they need the photo op, well, you can just add it to all the other reasons you hate Trump.  

 

 





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Yes Hound
Date:   11/12/2018 2:46:35 PM

It is indeed amusing to see that Trump has them totally consumed with their hatred.   They keep trying to force the rest of the forum's contributors to agree with their point of view and, in spite of the fact that - no matter how hard they try - others don't think that way.  Doesn't the old saying go something like "stupidity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result"?





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Yes Hound
Date:   11/12/2018 9:36:02 PM

They'll be really distraught tomorrow when they find out that neither Trump or Pence attended a tribute at Arlington.  Pence is on his way to Asia and Trump just got back in town.  So the head of VA Affairs placed the wreath with the Mattis looking on.  But that won't be enough for liberals.  If I'm not mistaken, the tomb is now empty, since they were able to identify the remains of the last occupant.  

 







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