Name:	Buteye -	Reply
Subject:	RIP?
Date:	2/16/2019 2:12:32 PM (updated 2/16/2019 2:15:21 PM)

Here you go again! How many people do you think are now "RIP" at the hands of murders by illegal immigrants? It's not just a few here and there, but people are dying by the thousands at the hands of the illegal drugs crossing the border on a daily basis. If you had one of your loved ones killed by an illegal immigrant, would you join those who are "mourning" these "heinous" deaths, or are you like so many of your left wing Democrats who say leave the borders open , "we need all the votes we can get"? So many like Pelosi say a "wall" is "immoral", what do they think about "those" who have "died" at the hands of illegal immigrants? If the wall saved just "one" life it would be worth the time and money spent.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             If there is any question, this post is mainly for Architect.

Name:	au67 -	Reply
Subject:	RIP?
Date:	2/16/2019 4:38:52 PM

After reading Archie's "RIP" post, I decided to put him on ignore.  Like most democrats. he is a bitter and seemingly very unhappy person, filled with negativism and hate.  I have read his posts for years and tried to be broadminded enough to at least be exposed to an opposing view. Ultimately though, life is too short to waste time on this prating and nonsense.  

Name:	lucky67 -	Reply
Subject:	RIP?
Date:	2/17/2019 9:13:39 AM (updated 2/17/2019 9:15:20 AM)

AU67--I came to the same conclusion last year--actually lowered my stress level by 50%--then i ignored Gfooy, now my stress level is zero

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	RIP?
Date:	2/17/2019 4:38:42 PM

Alex Jones would say none of it every happened.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Troll alert
Date:	2/18/2019 9:30:49 AM

Apparently some leftist is trying to bypass being blocked for serial stupidity by registering under an new name.  This account should be suspended. 

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	Or maybe
Date:	2/18/2019 10:59:01 AM

you've gotten into your martinis a bit early and have fallen prey to drunken delusions. Just a thought....

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Or maybe
Date:	2/18/2019 11:00:34 AM

or like most of the people in the pictures you posted maybe you need a mental health checkup.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	The people
Date:	2/18/2019 12:41:58 PM

with diagnosable mental health issues are the ones who express and promote paranoid fears of being murdered by illegal immigrants. The actual facts, when one bothers to research them, clearly show that you are far more likely to be murdered by a white "Christian" male than by a brown- or black-skinned immigrant.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	Who are the murdering extremists?
Date:	2/18/2019 1:10:11 PM (updated 2/18/2019 1:11:03 PM)

Right-wingers:

https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1?fbclid=IwAR36VZLW9JFQ3q-a3WKmz9kDS_6NlEvkUFBMz4OUT1NZAcHnSEDpAZPikFw

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	The people
Date:	2/18/2019 1:46:14 PM

Actaully statistically speaking you are far more likely to be aborted then murdered by a gun.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	Really?
Date:	2/18/2019 2:04:46 PM (updated 2/18/2019 2:06:04 PM)

There's exactly zero probability that I will be "aborted." The same is true for every citizen.

Also, FYI, the word you need is "than." It has a different meaning than "then."

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Really?
Date:	2/18/2019 2:09:14 PM

Sadly, you are correct that you are probably too old to be aborted - but with the laws changing you never know.  But as I wrote - statistically speaking someone is more likely to get aborted then killed by a gun.  

https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/abortion.htm

In 2015, 638,169 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate for 2015 was 11.8 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years, and the abortion ratio was 188 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	Really?
Date:	2/18/2019 3:42:23 PM

That is way OT, Phil. Truth be known, the way to minimize abortions is to minimize unwanted pregnancies by providing real sex education ("abstinence only" doesn't work; just ask Sarah Palin) and ready access to birth control.

You failed to address the point I made, however. Is it because you agree? As rabid as some folks are about illegal immigrants murdering white folks, they seem to be fine with white 'Murricans doing it. Instead of calling them thugs, terrorists, rapists, etc., they - like you - say they have "mental health" issues. FYI, ANYONE who commits a murder has mental health issues.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Really?
Date:	2/18/2019 4:30:21 PM (updated 2/18/2019 4:35:38 PM)

I agree that people who kill other people ( aka criminals ) regardless of politics/sex/color/nationality need to go to prison and be removed from this country if they do not belong.  Your attempt to use a statistic to smear "white "Christian male" as killing more people then "brown- or black-skinned immigrant" is attempting to simplfy the problem.

Now what I find interesting is that you seem to think that myself and others are only rabid if an illegal murders "white folks" - personally I see murder as murder - I do not care who does it or what color the victim or perp is, but if guilty should be punished.  

And I have never indicated that abstinence is even a solution, you must have mistaken me for a Catholic or someone who does not believe in birth control.  Now I do believe in personal responsibility, if you decide to impregnate your "other", because you decided that a condom that can be had quite easy, birth control and lots of other options just was inconvenient when you decided to create a child.  Are you saying that there is not currently a "ready access to birth control?"  Sorry but you can get condoms at any store, many schools and clinics hand them out for free like gum, and birth control can be had for no cost if not little cost - but it does take you having to get off your butt and swing by the clinic before your date.

Sorry but I feel that the racism dripping in your posts are unnecessary and an oversimplification of a much larger problem.

Now I still stand by my statistics that someone is a lot more likely to get aborted then killed by a gun in life and even more likely to get killed in a car accident.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	ADL study debunked
Date:	2/18/2019 5:11:27 PM

Sorry, but this is basically a repeat ad nasueum about a study done by ADL that has been debunked.  Hint, correlation is not causation.  When you look at the real statistics it's not even close.  Muslim and black activist extremist murders far outweigh "right wing" extremists, whatever that means.  Basically ADL very broadly defined what that term means and then included in their stats every murder committed by someone that fell into their overly broad definition.  As you can expect the "left wing" side of the equation was treated differently.

The relevant response from another organization that tracks this and is way more reputable than the ADL or SPLC.

But different organizations track extremist violence in different ways. The ADL counts non-ideological murders committed by extremists in its tally — so a dedicated white supremacist who commits a murder unrelated to his political beliefs would be counted, for example. New America, a think tank with its own tracking system, excludes such statistics.

New America counted five murders by far-right extremists in 2017, nine by Islamic extremists, and three by black nationalists.

Either way, extremist killings represent only a fraction of the total homicides in the U.S., though they tend to garner more media coverage and have an outsize impact on public debate.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	Nothing debunked whatever
Date:	2/18/2019 5:45:29 PM (updated 2/18/2019 5:46:12 PM)

First, if you want to have a shred of credibility, you'll have to name and link your sources. Anyone can make up or copy and paste quotes, and there is no shortage of agenda-driven phony "data."

Second, correlation is exactly what is being discussed here. Nobody has asserted - and hopefully nobody is stupid enough to beleve - that being an undocumented immigrant causes you to commit crimes. Logically, a person here without papers is motivated to keep the lowest profile possibe. Most of them - including the numerous examples in the employ of #45's businesses - are here to earn honest livings and lead quiet lives.

OTOH, being a follower of white supremacist groups, neo-Nazis, KKK, anti-choice extremists, etc., does correlate with the commission of violent crimes. Given the violent rhetoric put forth by these groups - some of it parroted by #45 and members of his administration - a reasonable person will recognize a highly likely, if not rigorously proven, causal link. Other than the attacks on 9/11/2001, the worst terrorist act committed on US soil was perpetrated by a military veteran - Timothy McVeigh - who was a "sovereign citizen (look it up)." In the aftermath, a number of members of that group publicly praised the atrocity he committed.

Anyone who is truly concerned about groups in this country that are most likely to commit murders will focus on the "alt right" and fellow travellers. Undocumented immigrants are far less dangerous than these groups.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Nothing debunked whatever
Date:	2/18/2019 6:14:12 PM (updated 2/18/2019 6:16:22 PM)

And when someone commits a crime they should be locked up - regardless on race/politics/gender/nationality - I do not see a problem?

I am not really concerned about if someone belongs to this group/that group/color/race - I am concerned if they are a nutter/criminal.

In terms of undocumented we have enough people in this country and our own problems as you point out nicely with the right wing nutter list - so I am glad that you do not have a problem with adding more unknown nutters(and no I am not saying all the undocumented are nutters - but some are) to the list of known nutters so that we can have even more nuts in this country.  I have concerns, because while you want to say that the unknown nutters murdered less people then white male alt-right nutters then we should worry about one group over the other group - but sorry in the end the nutter is a nutter - and if that undocumented nutter could have been stopped from being where he was to commit some rape/murder/DUI/other violent crime - well it would be nice if that nutter was stopped before he could have committed those crimes.

Sort of like the balls dropped in the Parkland shooting(which was a nutter on your list of pictures) - regardless of the motivation / politics of the shooter - the FBI/Local PD/School had many red flags that the shooter was a nutter - but hey lets look the other way, lets give him a break because statistically speaking under 20 year old white male students from florida did not have a high percentage of murders in a specific year - but that was before he decided to do what he did.

How about we just lock up "criminals" and not excuse behavior or look the other way because of some statistic/gender/race/politics/nationality - if they do the crime, they can do the time.

Unfortuantly 3 meals a day, playstation, basketball etc is not much of a punishment and not much of a deterrent.

I undestand these concepts are hard for you when you want to attempt to claim that white males republicans are the most dangerous things on Earth.

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Nothing debunked whatever
Date:	2/18/2019 6:58:23 PM

So Phil, are you "nutter blind" while newnamewonderwhohesheitis wants "nutter equality"?

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Nothing debunked whatever
Date:	2/19/2019 8:32:42 AM

Apparently more blind to racism/sexism/isms them this new nutter.