Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Looks like Bernie will be able to get a 3rd home
Date:	2/19/2019 4:16:13 PM

Raised over $1M shortly after he announced throwing his hat into the ring once again.  I see a 3rd house in his near future.  He and his wife must be clinking the champagne glasses as we speak.  One thing ya gotta give socialists credit for, they do know how to live the high life at the expense of the masses.  She Guevera is probably green with envy....pun intended.

Name:	QuietMan -	Reply
Subject:	Looks like Bernie will be able to get a 3rd home
Date:	2/20/2019 12:55:24 AM

One thing ya gotta give socialists credit for, they do know how to live the high life at the expense of the masses

4 bankruptcies in Atlantic City. Who paid for that?

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	TDS is treatable
Date:	2/20/2019 8:43:36 AM (updated 2/20/2019 9:08:05 AM)

You know, you are starting to be like Goofy and make every post about Trump.  As I tell him often, seek professional help before its too late.

As for your comment, you obviously have no experience with business, especially real estate.  You take risks and sometimes it pays off and sometimes it doesn't.  Given that Trump was flying around in his own 757, owns multiple residences, etc. I think we can reasonably conclude that he has made more money for himself and his partners than he has lost.  But left wing nuts like you seem to think that every business transaction is a guaranteed success.  That is why you were likely a drone working for some rich guy and not an entreprenuer.  And if you were, then you are intellectually dishonest in criticizing someone else for having taken a risk and occasionally failed.  

And the more I think about it, the more I like your comparison of Bernie and Trump.  Let's recap.  Trump has made hundreds of millions in profits over his career.  Bernie's "investors" gave him over $200M and he lost every single penny of it.  Granted, that was much better than the billion that Hillary blew on her run in 2016.  So Trump had a few of his real estate partnerships go belly up but far more made hundreds of millions in profit.  Bernie was given over $200M and the ROI was exactly zero.  Hillary even worse.  Care to keep playing?

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	This is why I have disdain for the left
Date:	2/20/2019 10:48:46 AM

The post above by Quietman would almost certainly earn him all sorts of plaudits and attaboys at Axios or some other left wing nut website.  Here it is met with facts, logic and reason and exposed for it's intellectual vacuousness and silliness.  Memes and soundbites like the one above are no substitute for reason and critical thinking.  They seem clever on the surface but once you dissect them they are found wanting of any particular value.  But in his defense, if I were a leftist that would be literally the best I could come up with as well.  Believing in something that has never worked and will never work requires a certain amount of self delusion so this is actually minor in comparison.

Name:	QuietMan -	Reply
Subject:	Disdain for right wing whack jobs
Date:	2/20/2019 8:53:25 PM (updated 2/20/2019 10:13:17 PM)

Poor Martini.  Smoke and mirrors, the fallback of the new far right, is to insult the other person and avoid the issue. Your original post advocated censorship of a position you didn’t like. Very much like your incapable leader. Your attempted smear, supposedly backed by logic and reason (that phrase is becoming tiresome in your always too long posts) was based on nonsense. Trump looted Atlantic City and hid behind bankruptcy. Both parties are responsible for allowing this escape hatch - and closing it is long overdue.  Nothing to dissect really.  i have lots of experience in business - probably more than you. I just don't choose to post pedantic, self-serving, partisan messages to make myself feel better. Get over it. Your guy made money, sure, but he left a path of bad stuff in his wake. 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Fact free response
Date:	2/21/2019 8:21:35 AM (updated 2/21/2019 9:30:31 AM)

As usual I responded with facts and you responded with none.  And if you have business experience then G-d help your employees and shareholders.  Tell me again about the ROI of Bernie and Hillary for the more than a billion dollars people invested in them to win a political office.  I'm waiting......come on, tell us how that is better than Trump having some real estate partnerships go belly up while making hundreds of millions in profits with others.  And I can understand why you have disdain for conservatives, they use facts, logic and reason to obliterate your emotional, nonsensical beliefs.  I'd hate that too if I were you.  Must be very painful and frustrating.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Factual response
Date:	2/21/2019 3:18:50 PM

The facts are facts. Bernie and Hillary got 0 retrun. Kinda like the 40 Republicans who lost and gave control of the House to the Democrats.

As to Trump and his casinos...Ask the stock and bondholders what their ROI was????????

"After narrowly escaping financial ruin in the early 1990s by delaying payments on his debts, Mr. Trump avoided a second potential crisis by taking his casinos public and shifting the risk to stockholders.

And he never was able to draw in enough gamblers to support all of the borrowing. During a decade when other casinos here thrived, Mr. Trump’s lagged, posting huge losses year after year. Stock and bondholders lost more than $1.5 billion."

Let's see what the ROI for the Trumps and their buddies are for the $107 million spent on the Trump's inaugural. Maybe so high a few will join Trumps' buddies who are going to prison.

Quietman is making you look bad in the eyes of your puppets!!!!!!!!!!! They are leavng you out to hang........You may need to hide him with IGNORE.

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Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Factual response
Date:	2/21/2019 3:48:13 PM

Righto.....those real estate partnerships were a bad deal for the investors.  Risk and reward Goofy.  But the fact remains that Trump has made money on his investments for both him and his partners.  Hence, his net worth, his private jet, his many homes, etc.  Ya take your chances and sometimes it works out and others times it doesn't.  Everyone involved in those transactions were willing to take the risk in the hope of getting the upside.  Didn't work out.  But unlike Bernie and Hillary, he has generated lots of wealth and they pissed away the billion plus that the left wing rubes invested in them.  And it looks like Bernie is going to cash in again.  The bible said it best about a fool and his money......

Name:	au67 -	Reply
Subject:	Looks like Bernie will be able to get a 3rd home
Date:	2/21/2019 5:09:57 PM

I believe he already has three homes.  

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Yep, you are right
Date:	2/21/2019 5:14:31 PM

It's hard to keep up with the socialists and their ability to amass wealth on $174K per year.  I make way more than that and can't afford that many homes.