Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Long overdue end to filibuster
Date:	4/5/2019 10:52:16 AM

Finally the Senate is returning to its Constitutional role on advice and consent, which should have happened a long time ago.  Under the Constitution, there are only two areas where the Senate requires a super majority (Treaties and amendments to the Constitution).  Rule 22 was a extra Constitutional requirement for the Senate's advice and consent role with Presidential appointees.  And yes, when Democrats control the Senate they will benefit from these changes and I am OK with that.  Neither party should use ridiculous procedural rules to prevent the President from having the administration they want.  And my assumption is that if someone really egregious comes along their will be a bipartisan rejection of that individual. 

But no more of this, "I don't like their political views so I am going to obstruct."  Those days are over for both parties and that's a good thing. As someone famoulsy said, elections have consequences, and using unconstitutional means to avoid those consequences is wrong and hopefully dead forever.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Long overdue end to filibuster
Date:	4/5/2019 10:32:00 PM

When Reid threatened to do the same, you did not think it was a wise thing to do...now it is a return to constitutional governemt. Are you just intellectually dishonest or a hypocrite?

MM 1/24/13 Despite all the bluster at the end of the day he wisely chose not to pursue a short term advantage that could have been a long-term nightmare for Dems.  So they have decided not to change the filibuster rules.  Very smart Harry as I think you understand only too well what could happen in the 2014 mid term elections, especially as the reality of Obamacare becomes more fully realized and people are PO'd about it.  The minority party has used this legislative advantage to temper the majority aspirations and what is good for the goose would also be good for the gander.

MM 11/22/13 Funny how when the GOP controlled the Senate all we heard from Harry and his band of miscreants is how the rules of the Senate for the last 250 years protected the rights of the minority but now all of the sudden they vote to change them being the abject hypocrites that they are.  And we all know why.  They realize they are going to get blasted to pieces in 2014 and they want to do as much damage to the country as they can between now and then.  The only thing stopping them was the right of the minority to require 60 votes for cloture.  This is all about the nomination of activist judges and uber leftists to the administration.

Well here's my prediction, when they do lose their majority they will once again whine about the lost rights of the minority and realizing the stupidity of the GOP they will probably roll over and restore the need for 60 votes to get to cloture.  The reason the GOP didn't go nuclear when they had the votes is simple, they recognized that what goes around comes around and did not want to give up this right when they were in the minority.  Dems I am sure think they can have their cake and eat it too and no doubt the leftist govt media will go along with their hypocrisy.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Neither
Date:	4/6/2019 2:15:26 PM

I am neither but thanks for the detailed research.  Raining in Florida today that you had so much time on your hands or is your Bimmer in the shop?  My point at the time was that they would regret the decision when they lose control and I was proven right when Reid changed his mind and nuked the advice and consent rule.  That was a political observation, not a Constitutional one.

My point now is the same.  The GOP will indeed regret this decision when they are no longer in control but it's the right thing to do to extend the Reid rule to its logical conclusion because a super majority was never intended for these type of decisions.  But bear in mind Goofy it all started with Democrats.  And Trump is going to load up the courts with strict constitutionalists and that from my perspective is a good thing.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Neither
Date:	4/6/2019 10:05:29 PM

Neither rain nor heat......took all of 30 seconds to uncover the truth...

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Except the truth part
Date:	4/7/2019 12:09:52 PM

I'm glad you are so proficient but you are still reading comprehension challenged.  Nothing I said before is in conflict with my current position.  I said that the Dems would regret this politically and I was right, they did and it cost them a SCOTUS appointment.  But from a Constitutional perspective it makes perfect sense to carry the Reid Rule to its logical endpoint.  And it is and always be Harry Reid's shortsighted decision that you are now lamenting.