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Name:   johndoe - Email Member
Subject:   The Definition of Racism
Date:   7/20/2019 11:22:23 PM (updated 7/20/2019 11:28:32 PM)

From Merriam-Webster online
 
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles
b : a political or social system founded on racism
3 : racial prejudice or discrimination
 
 
This country's founders, most of its leaders until sometime in the latter half of the 20th century, and much of its white population fit the first definition above. It was the foundation of slavery, the excuse for the displacement and genocide of the indigenous peoples who lived here before the colonizers/oppressors appeared, the basis for Jiim Crow, the founding principle behind the KKK, much of the basis for the political careers of George Wallace, Bull Connor, Jeff Sessions, Roy Moore, and many other Alabama politicians, and an essential part of the Republican party's "southern strategy" which was initiated by Nixon and continued by Reagan, Poppy Bush, and now by #45. Listen to the interview on youtube with Lee Atwater from 1981.
 
 
Here's a quote: "You start out in 1954 by saying, “N****r, n****r, n****.” By 1968 you can’t say “n****r”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N****, n****r.”
 
Now, you excuse-makers have two choices: you can recognize the cesspool that Republican politicians have knowingly waded into and helped to perpetuate and pull yourself out and try to clean off the stench, or you can continue making it publicly obvious that your attitudes are accurately described in the first part of the above definition. You can't do both.




Name:   Carlson - Email Member
Subject:   The Definition of Racism
Date:   7/21/2019 10:27:18 AM





Name:   Old Diver - Email Member
Subject:   How Come.....?
Date:   7/21/2019 10:57:46 AM

Just about all societies at some time or other practiced slavery. Romans, Egyptans, Muslims (Even today), the list goes on and on. Certain races enslaved others because they believed their society superior and had the power to do so. Even today, right here ia America slavery exist! What else do you call a pimp who enslaves women with drugs and sells them. This is some of the worst in history! Now, I wonder who the pimp supports, if anyone? Slavery was rightly judged a crime against humanity and only England and America banished it with laws. In fact, it was many years before the Democrats forgave the Republicans for taking away their slaves!

   It is a fact that the accomplishments of different races diffiers widely and at different times is irrefutable. To deny this is Lysenkoism at its best! I would like to know why this is so. 

   I noticed the name of the author of the racist diatribe quoted was strangely missing. I wonderwhat his background was?

   The Jim Crow laws were a Democrat invention. Indeed, in the 60's and 70's when the Republicans  were passing civil rights laws the Democrats were fighting them tooth and nail. Ask former Sen Bird who had been a member of the KKK. In fact almost all the Civil Rights laws were passesd by Republicans. Look it up!

   Another interesting coincidence is that the more shrill the denunciation of the Republicand by the Demos is usually over the very thing they are usaually guilty of! I can only conclude that they are some of the most sanctimonious hippocratic in history! Just look at how they block the wall and blame the Republicand for the "Human Rights Disaster"!





Name:   johndoe - Email Member
Subject:   How Come Some People Don't Read?
Date:   7/21/2019 11:52:14 AM (updated 7/21/2019 12:23:32 PM)

"I noticed the name of the author of the racist diatribe quoted was strangely missing."

No. You failed to comprehend that I had named him just above the quote: Lee Atwater. I suggest you count slowly to ten and take deep breaths before committing to a post.

"I wonderwhat his background was?"

Here, let me Google that for you. In case you don't understand how to click a link, here's the opening quote from the Wiki page:

"Harvey LeRoy "Lee" Atwater (February 27, 1951 – March 29, 1991) was an American political consultant and strategist for the Republican Party. He was an adviser to US presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush and chairman of the Republican National Committee. Atwater aroused controversy through his aggressive campaign tactics. "

 

"In fact almost all the Civil Rights laws were passesd by Republicans."

No The Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 were put forth by a Democratic administration (LBJ) and passed with bipartisan majorities. Look it up! And don't try to rewrite history!





Name:   johndoe - Email Member
Subject:   I knew
Date:   7/21/2019 12:30:26 PM (updated 7/21/2019 12:31:25 PM)

that the racists who post here would out themselves in their replies to my post.

While racism exists independent of political parties, it is a fact that the Republican party has intentionally sought the support of the racist element in our society since at least 1968. See the quote from Lee Atwater in the OP. Better yet, listen to the linked clip from the interview. Even better, listen to or read a transcript of the full interview. There is no doubt that Atwater was accurately describing the party's strategy; he was in charge of formulating it at the time. He was responsible for the "welfare queen" phrase that Reagan used in his campaign and for the Willie Horton commercials and ads that Poppy Bush's campaign ran.





Name:   Carlson - Email Member
Subject:   TDS
Date:   7/21/2019 1:21:32 PM

there is simply no cure. 

But overall this stuff is getting old.  Such much unhappiness.  





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   johnny-doe-doe RACIST
Date:   7/21/2019 3:17:42 PM (updated 7/21/2019 4:20:31 PM)

As usual you dodged the entire point.  Give us the socialist definition of racism as used by socialist today.  We are all very familiar with the use of “racism” up until 2015.  Now, racism has a whole new meaning. Why is EVERYTHING racist.....if we don’t agree with a liberal socialist we are racist.....everything is RACIST.  Nothing Atwater said in the 80s applies today.  Give us the info.





Name:   johndoe - Email Member
Subject:   Definitions matter.
Date:   7/21/2019 4:25:29 PM

"As usual you missed the entire point." 

No. I get "the point." You're trying to say the shoe doesn't fit when it fits you perfectly.

 

"We are all very familiar with the use of “racism” up until 2015."

It hasn't changed. Up until ca. 40 years ago, it is a mantle people like you would have worn proudly. It's gone out of style, but #45 is doing his best to bring it back.

 

"Nothing Atwater said in the 80s applies today."

Let me get this straight: you're saying that you believe the Republican party - the "party of "Lincoln," the same party that allegedly passed all that civil rights legislation in the 1960s, adopted a policy of appealing to racists in 1968, continued that policy for an unspecified period of time, then magically returned to being the "party of Lincoln?" Dang, that's a pack of obvious self-serving lies right there.

The truth is that everything Atwater said still applies. The only difference now is that you guys lack his subtlety, and the rest of us know your code language very well.

 

I'll quote Andrew Gillum when he responded to Ron DeSantis in a debate during the Florida gubernatorial race in 2018: "I'm not saying you're a racist, I'm saying all the racists think you're a racist." This applies to #45, as well as to a number of current politicians, all of them Republicans.

Was George Wallace a racist? Was Jesse Helms a racist? Was Strom Thurmond a racist?

We all know the answers to the above. Of course they were. They capitalized on their racism to gain and retain political power.

Is Jeff Sessions a racist? Of course he is. He was denied a Federal judgeship in 1986 for that very reason.

Are birthers racist? Of course they are. That's what motivated their spreading such an obvious lie.

Is #45 a racist? Of course he is. He was sued by the Federal government and lost for housing discrimination in 1973. He is widely known to use racial slurs against both people of color and Jewish people. He took out newspaper ads calling for the death penalty to be carried out on five innocent young black men. He led the birther movement. He called Mexicans rapists and drug dealers. He claimed a Federal judge could not rule fairly because he had a Spanish name (that judge was born in the US, BTW). The list goes on and on. When you deny what's right in front of all of us, it strains credulity to think you're stupid enough not to recognize the obvious. The reasonable conclusion is that you see the same things we all see and are OK with them.

Are you a racist? I know the answer to that one. Do you?

 





Name:   CRD - Email Member
Subject:   The Definition of Racism
Date:   7/21/2019 4:31:49 PM

Doe,

Since you seem to be such a fan of Twitter liberal provocateurs, may I suggest that you read from someone who I feel has always throughout his radio career, had a well balanced opinion of racism and how many confuse that term with what is really bigotry or predjudice.  His name is Neal Boortz.   You might find him interesting, or since he is a Libertarian, you may just flush him because he does not ascribe to your opinions and predjudices.  (Which by the way, according to Mirriam-Webster, is the definition of a bigot). 





Name:   Carlson - Email Member
Subject:   Severe chronic TDS
Date:   7/21/2019 4:34:01 PM

Man you are acutely affected!  Maybe some self examination will help you understand and be at peace, but I doubt it.   Anyone among you without sin cast the first stone.  Maybe you are perfect but I understand there is only one entity that can claim that.

he happy, don’t worry!

 





Name:   johndoe - Email Member
Subject:   Really? Since 2015?
Date:   7/21/2019 4:37:29 PM (updated 7/21/2019 5:27:10 PM)

"We are all very familiar with the use of “racism” up until 2015."

Hmmm, so everything's changed since then, when Lindsey said this?

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Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   johnny-doe-doe RACIST
Date:   7/21/2019 5:41:16 PM

As in all your previous posts you are hung up on ancient racism toward blacks.....got it?? Get over it!  The discussion is about liberal socialists using the term “Racist” anytime they disagree with the law and legal system of the United States.  Any human that mentions the totally illegal invasion of migrant hordes invading America is termed a racist by your chosen political idiots.  Can you understand that the use of “racists” to describe American citizens who simply want the Government of the US to prevent this invasion is STUPID, WRONG, and INCORRECT.  The invasion includes many different races (very few blacks) including Spanish, South American Indian Tribes, White Europeans, Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans, Cubans, etc.  Race doesn’t matter.....legality matters.....got it??  Every intelligent human is well aware that the only purpose of this false love of illegals by socialists is to take control of the government.  Take a good look at the world today.....name one successful, multi-racial socialist country.  One!!!   Venezuela????





Name:   johndoe - Email Member
Subject:   Another One Outs Himself
Date:   7/21/2019 8:05:00 PM (updated 7/21/2019 9:21:10 PM)

"As in all your previous posts you are hung up on ancient racism toward blacks."

No. Read the OP. I made reference to native Americans and to Hispanic people, as well as to the KKK, which is just as anti-Semitic as it is anti-African American. In addition, there was the internment of Japanese Americans during WWII and the refusal to accept Jewish asylum seekers, including Anne Frank, in the 1930s. Racism is not by any means exclusively targeted at African Americans. They just happen to be the largest group that is targeted by racists.

"The discussion is about liberal socialists using the term “Racist” anytime they disagree with the law and legal system of the United States." 

No. You should try to learn about "the law and legal system of the United States." It is legal to seek asylum, regardless of the point of entry into the country.  It is legally mandated to honor the rights of asylum-seekers. It is illegal to commit human rights violations, including separating children from parents and imprisoning immigrants under conditions that would not be acceptable for cattle. The justifications for committing these atrocities are all based on the racist belief that the lives of brown people are worth less than those of white people.

"Any human that mentions the totally illegal invasion of migrant hordes"

There is no such "invasion." The invention of this lie is itself a racist act, and you are actively propagating the racist lie.

You have well and truly outed yourself. Your specific form of racism is known as White Supremacy, White Nationalism, Neo-nazism, and - euphemistically understated - "alt-right."





Name:   Shortbus - Email Member
Subject:   johnny-doe-doe RACIST
Date:   7/21/2019 8:07:43 PM

A young black kid asks his mother, "Mama, what is Socialism and what is Racism?"
"Well, Child...Socialism is when the white folks work hard every day so we can get all our governmental entitlement stuff for free.
 You know...like our free cell phones for each family member, rent subsidy, food stamps, EBT, WIC, free school breakfast, lunch, and in some places supper; free healthcare, utility subsidy, and on and on...you know, that's Socialism."
 "But, Mama, don't the white people get pissed off about that?"
 "Sure they do, Honey. That's called Racism."
 (Never was it more simply explained.)





Name:   Carlson - Email Member
Subject:   TDS
Date:   7/21/2019 8:13:19 PM

have you seen the quotes from the past from Biden, Pelosi, etc. about the migration at the southern border. 

Both parties are guilty but seems you have sided with the Democrat Party.  

TDS is your diagnosis and yet you keep on and on that no one on this thread.  Of well continue on.  

Have a good evening.





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   The Definition of Racism
Date:   7/21/2019 8:17:59 PM

Are you suggesting that Trump is a bigot in addition to being a racist or is he just a bigot or still a racist????? You lost me dude.





Name:   johndoe - Email Member
Subject:   Another self-outing racist
Date:   7/21/2019 9:27:44 PM (updated 7/21/2019 9:28:00 PM)

Congratulations, you just outed yourself. More white people than black people receive government assistance.





Name:   johndoe - Email Member
Subject:   The Definition of Racism
Date:   7/21/2019 9:33:13 PM

"a well balanced opinion of racism and how many confuse that term with what is really bigotry or predjudice." 

I suffer from no such confusion. Prejudice is, as its entomology suggests, prejudgement without basis. None of us is entirely free of prejudice.

Racism, OTOH, is the use of prejudice as the justification for attitudes, political positions, and actions.

It is one thing to prejudge. It is entirely another to defend that prejudgement as fact and to act on it.





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   Shortbus....GREAT
Date:   7/21/2019 10:05:34 PM

Luv’ that post.  Says it all, very concisely.





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   Hey COPPER-IDIOT
Date:   7/21/2019 10:10:37 PM

I’ll bet your heart rate is 175/m, and you have peed your pants 10 times.  You are about as sick as any liberal idiot I’ve been in contact with.  Better make an appointment with the psychiatrist...soon.





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   Johnny-COPPER
Date:   7/21/2019 10:13:52 PM

Guess ya never met anyone who isn’t a RACIST!!!!!  All  BS.





Name:   Lifer - Email Member
Subject:   Another One Outs Himself
Date:   7/22/2019 7:00:40 AM

The same old, tired argument used by idiots ignorant of statistics or basic counting.





Name:   Shortbus - Email Member
Subject:   johnny-doe-doe RACIST
Date:   7/22/2019 7:54:32 AM

https://www.wnd.com/files/2019/07/National-Emergency-by-Jon-McNaughton.jpg





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   The Definition of Racism
Date:   7/22/2019 9:05:54 AM





Name:   flyfisher - Email Member
Subject:   The Definition of Racism
Date:   7/22/2019 3:51:33 PM

this should be dubbed  " the thread to no where"





Name:   johndoe - Email Member
Subject:   The Party of Racism
Date:   7/22/2019 7:36:22 PM

Here's a good read, if you made it past fourth grade:

How the Republican Party Became The Party of Racism





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   johnny-do-do RACIST
Date:   7/22/2019 10:57:07 PM

Thanks for posting the “roots” article, your beloved reference material.  It says all anyone needs to know about YOU......





Name:   johndoe - Email Member
Subject:   You have to have
Date:   7/23/2019 7:35:55 AM

gotten past fourth grade to be able to read the article. Maybe you can get a grownup to read it to you and tell you what all the big words mean.





Name:   Carlson - Email Member
Subject:   Oh yeah. Well my dad can beat up your dad!
Date:   7/23/2019 7:39:17 AM

?? 





Name:   Subrosa - Email Member
Subject:   The Definition of Racism
Date:   7/23/2019 4:07:57 PM

I see a big problem with the definition and the labeling of racism.  If you are Hispanic, for instance, you are born Hispanic and you will be Hispanic all of your life.  If someone disagrees with you in any way, you can say it is because of your race.  After all, there are probably millions of instances of clear racism towards Hispanics in the world.  Does this mean that any time an Hispanic person doesn’t get their way, all of their lives, they can claim racism and other people are supposed to back off?  Seems to me that if we want to make the world a better place, we need to truly live what we espouse, equality, and stop refusing to work together because of race.  After all, the next step sure to come are various ethnic groups, races,etc. all playing the race cars against each other!  We need to stop marinating in this mess and move on!  





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   The Definition of Racism
Date:   7/23/2019 4:28:08 PM

Welcome aboard and I fully agree.

You can apply the same to any number of list of ics/ists/isms.

 

I have a vagina so you can not argue with me because you are sexist.

I am other then white so you can not argue with me because you are racist.

I am LGBTQRSTWXYZ so you can not argue with me because you are homophobic.

Rinse & repeat.

 

It is the easy way to attempt to "win" the arguement without having to actually defend our viewpoint and just label the question as an attack on your color/vagina/pick a trait(other then male/white).

 

 

 

 





Name:   Subrosa - Email Member
Subject:   The Definition of Racism
Date:   7/23/2019 5:05:29 PM

Yup





Name:   Shortbus - Email Member
Subject:   johnny-doe-doe RACIST
Date:   7/30/2019 5:50:06 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_g9uIHCAZs&feature=share

 







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