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Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Well,well,well
Date:   7/26/2019 6:23:22 PM

With today's new GDP numbers it is now official...economic growth (as measured by the GDP) in Obama's last 2 years was higher than Trump's first 2 years.  And, that is AFTER the Trumpistas gave away the store in tax cuts to the top corporations and 1 percenters with the promise it would make the economy not only soar, but soar so high the growth alone would replace the lost revenue  LOL!!!*

* Trump does beat Obama in the deficits though...Trump deficits after 2 years is almost double the last 2 Obama deficits.

It is time for all of you will wake up and see what a disaster you worship.

 





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Well,well,well
Date:   7/26/2019 6:34:49 PM (updated 7/26/2019 6:35:22 PM)

Too bad, Martini has you on Ignore. Would like to see how he uses his church school education to explain this oddity.





Name:   Carlson - Email Member
Subject:   Funny, he who laughs last...
Date:   7/26/2019 7:02:41 PM

When year ends we shall see.  2nd quarter does not make a full year.  Very few folks understand economics but one needs to wait till the fat woman signs.  





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Funny, he who laughs last...
Date:   7/26/2019 7:40:41 PM

Well, today the fat lady finished her most recent aria and she proclaimed that after 10 quarters of Trump the economic growth is sligthtly trailing the last 10 quarters of Obama.  Sure, she may sing a different tune later, but I hope the Trumpistas don't suffer too much heartburn from her performance today!





Name:   flyfisher - Email Member
Subject:   Well,well,well
Date:   7/27/2019 9:23:26 AM

im doing very very well in my portfolio under Trump vs. Obammer





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Have you actually compared
Date:   7/27/2019 9:57:02 AM (updated 7/27/2019 10:00:58 AM)

the percentage change on your statements for the last 900 days of Obama and the first 900 days of Trump? If not please do so and you might be surprised.  Of course I don't know what equities, funds and bonds you have in your portfolio, but it is a fact that the DOW did better percentage wise during the latter months of Obama vs the beginning months of Trump.  Perhaps it's human nature to assume you did worse under an administration you dispised when reality says otherwise.  I have done well under Trump, I did marginally better in the 2nd term of Obama...that is a fact whether it appeals to you or not!  The question is, if you do compare and find you had a result similar to mine, will you have the guts to acknowledge it.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Those wo care and dare
Date:   7/27/2019 10:21:51 AM (updated 7/27/2019 10:25:17 AM)

check out ''TrumpVsObamaStocks''

AS OF JULY 27, 2019 

From 1/20/08 - 7/27/10

DOW+60% / Nas+98% / S+P+67%

 

From 1/20/17 - 7/27/19

DOW+37% / Nas+50% / S+P+33%

 

Yeah yeah, I know this compares the first 31 months of each administration rather than the comparable latter for Obama and the first of Trump, but l'll bet a lot of you are surprised! The Trumpistas are often surprised when confronted with reality rather than Trumps lies. The ''truth'' is there for those who dare to seek it.

                                                                                                                                                                              

 





Name:   Carlson - Email Member
Subject:   Figures lie and liars figure
Date:   7/27/2019 2:01:22 PM

why did you not use the day before the election.  The market flew after knowing that Trump won.  Of course, you know that but it does not  support your narrative.  Just a little footnote for those who seek the truth.  





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Because the web site referenced
Date:   7/27/2019 2:09:54 PM (updated 7/27/2019 2:11:04 PM)

compares the 2 from the day each took office.  If you have a problem take it up with them.  If you doubt their figures lie you can easly check that too...perhaps you should do so to ease your mind.





Name:   flyfisher - Email Member
Subject:   Figures lie and liars figure
Date:   7/27/2019 2:24:54 PM

Work Experience outside politics : Obama=none; Biden= none; Dem hopefuls = none





Name:   johndoe - Email Member
Subject:   Figures lie and liars figure
Date:   7/27/2019 3:25:20 PM

Work Experience anywhere: #45 = none.

Criminal Experience, both outside and inside politics : #45 = entire adult life.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Tell me FF
Date:   7/27/2019 6:33:44 PM

Have you fulfilled my request and actually checked the percentage changes in you portofolio under Obama vs Trump?  Whats keeping you? Are you afraid you might not like the result?





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   If the truth be known
Date:   7/27/2019 6:35:44 PM

he was no saint in his youth either.  He certainly lied to stay out of Viet Nam in his late teens!





Name:   Carlson - Email Member
Subject:   Do really want the truth or what website says?
Date:   7/27/2019 6:58:20 PM

figures lie and liars figure.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   I want the truth!
Date:   7/27/2019 10:08:03 PM

Why don't you?





Name:   CRD - Email Member
Subject:   I want the truth!
Date:   7/28/2019 6:46:44 AM

Ok Archie, let's agree that job growth numbers of Obama's last quarter and Trump's first quarter are almost indistinguishable.  Where I have a problem is that Obama's numbers were coming just off the Great Recession.  Where else were they to go but up?   Trump's growth numbers are far more impressive because of what the 340 million or so of us have been able to accomplish under his watch.  I don't like any administration taking credit for any economy.  Gov't rules and regulations alllow us to flourish or drown.  We are the economic engine and under Obama, DISPOSABLE INCOME, which I feel is the least trumpeted indicator but vitally important, was miserably FLAT.   Unemployment numbers under Obama were putrid.  The rate of Obama's recovery was the worst in history from a recession. 

So continue to cherrypick your statistics that validate your hero's economic policies.  History will show that 340 million citizens responded better to governmental policy (translated spent more money because they had jobs) under Trump in 2 years than they ever did under Obama.  That is the truth.

 





Name:   Carlson - Email Member
Subject:   I want the truth!
Date:   7/28/2019 8:23:12 AM

November 7, 2016 DOW closed at 17,888.  

My IRA is up 50% since then.  

These are my personal facts, but I assure I not alone in those gains.  Policies can and do drive economic growth.  Economics 101 should be taught in all schools not just business schools.  





Name:   Subrosa - Email Member
Subject:   Well,well,well
Date:   7/28/2019 3:42:33 PM

I know the economy is doing better, because every fast food outlet, convenience store and other minimum-wage paying businesses all have "We're hiring" signs out.  Now that there are plenty of better-paying jobs, the fast food outlets are begging for employees.

 

Most of us in this country do not care what someone put on Twitter years ago, or what some TDS-suffering woman is willing to debase herself by claiming, with no evidence mind you, that she was sexually assaulted, what, 30 or 40 years ago.  We want to work and take care of our families and enjoy the fruit of our own labors. 





Name:   Subrosa - Email Member
Subject:   Funny, he who laughs last...
Date:   7/28/2019 3:44:05 PM

Guess that Mueller debacle really has your panties in a wad, huh?





Name:   Subrosa - Email Member
Subject:   Figures lie and liars figure
Date:   7/28/2019 3:47:29 PM

Oh, but they are all paragons of virtue whose hearts bleed for the masses.  Problem with Demwits is that they never seem to accomplish any of their campaign promises and then they blame the Republicans for blocking them.





Name:   Subrosa - Email Member
Subject:   I want the truth!
Date:   7/28/2019 3:51:14 PM

Like most "social progressives" you want to get all up in everybody's business.  After all, if we all end up in government housing with our guaranteed income and/or go to work everday to do some mindless thing, like wipe a robot's butt, there's nothing to hide -- we are all the same so we have no need for privacy.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   The late Ross Perot
Date:   7/28/2019 4:20:20 PM

said in 1992 ''Let me write 200 billion in hot checks and l can give you a booming economy too.''  Trump gave us tax cuts to the mega corporations and 1 percenters that made Perot's 200 billion in hot checks look like chump change and in so doing doubled the deficit and he still trails Obama!!  The truth hurts CRD, but it is still the truth!





Name:   CRD - Email Member
Subject:   The late Ross Perot
Date:   7/28/2019 5:59:46 PM

Dems got more money allotted for their social programs than Trump got for his military this go around.  Fact is, if the Dems were not going to get theirs, nothing would have been accomplished.  Dems create the budget, the upper limit is set in stone now. That is all.   It doesn't mean that it will get spent.  Now the hard part begins with negotiation of each individual department.  You can't make accusations until all the budget negotiations are completed and we see just what the numbers are.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   What about this year CRD...HUH?
Date:   7/28/2019 10:42:45 PM

$1,000,000,000,000+ (that's TRILLION with a T) deficit and reduced revenue inspite of the promise that the''Trump'' boom would actually MORE than pay for the HUUGE tax cuts this azzhole and his cronies gave themselves!  Look at the actual facts for once in your life!!!

Thai year the forcast is 1.2 trillion!





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   Well,well,well
Date:   7/29/2019 9:02:03 AM

I find it funny that not long ago they were talking about how Trump inherited the "Obama economy" and today are claiming that it sux.

 

Personally my stocks have gained about 30% more then under any of the 8 fell years of Oblamer.

 

Thankfully did not even have to look far other then the front page that breaks down ups/down/gains & losses by quarter and year for the past 20 years.  Nice little graphs too.

 







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