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Name:   johndoe - Email Member
Subject:   Here's how we look to the rest of the world.
Date:   8/5/2019 8:49:20 AM

US in the midst of a white nationalist terrorism crisis

The article is spot-on. #45 didn't create white nationalism, but he capitalizes on it daily, and he has the full support of all the white nationalists, neo-Nazis, KKK, and the like.

Rhetoric matters. Rhetoric from the POTUS matters more. #45 routinely incites violence and racism. Congress needs to to its duty and hold him to account.

Getting rid of Individual 1 won't get rid of racism, bigotry, and hate, but it will be a step in the right direction.





Name:   Carlson - Email Member
Subject:   TDS
Date:   8/5/2019 8:52:59 AM

getting tiresome to hear Trump is responsible for everything bad in the world.  Perhaps introspection is needed.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Trump's not responsible for all bad things
Date:   8/5/2019 10:33:57 AM (updated 8/5/2019 10:52:22 AM)

in the world, but he sure has a pretty impressive batting average for bad results that have to do with racially charged violence, stupid decisions on world trade, spitting on our allies, kissing up up to our enemies and failure at working to unify the nation!

 





Name:   johndoe - Email Member
Subject:   You're trying to put words in my mouth
Date:   8/5/2019 10:38:52 AM

when you say, "getting tiresome to hear Trump is responsible for everything bad in the world." Hyperbolic overstatements like that are not rebuttals; they are nothing but childish whining.

What part of the following quote from the OP do you not comprehend?

"#45 didn't create white nationalism, but he capitalizes on it daily, and he has the full support of all the white nationalists, neo-Nazis, KKK, and the like." A little introspection is in order for you.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   as has been said before:
Date:   8/5/2019 10:51:18 AM (updated 8/5/2019 10:54:50 AM)

"Donald Trump is not be a racist* and certainly most of his supporters are not racists, but most racists are supporters of Donald Trump.''

Do you disagree with this statement Carlson?  If not, tell us how and why you do not accept it.

 

*  I'm not sure I still agree with this part of the statement





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Here's how we look to the rest of the world.
Date:   8/5/2019 11:12:25 AM (updated 8/5/2019 11:13:40 AM)

Look just above the title on the left side of the article.  The word OPINION. applies, yet you treat it as fact.  It is the writers opinion, your opinion, and architect's opinion.





Name:   Carlson - Email Member
Subject:   so You call me names and that’s mature, lol.
Date:   8/5/2019 11:47:50 AM

TDS!  Introspection please.  





Name:   CRD - Email Member
Subject:   as has been said before:
Date:   8/5/2019 12:29:39 PM

Most pro abortion baby murderers are pro democratic party.  Do you argue with that Arch and Doe Doe?  What's your point?





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   as has been said before:
Date:   8/5/2019 1:31:15 PM

but that is acceptable murder.





Name:   HARRY - Email Member
Subject:   Trump's not responsible for all bad things
Date:   8/5/2019 4:18:47 PM

The nation was as divided as it has been since the civil war at the end of Obama’s reign. Don’t blame that on Trump.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   I’ll answer you asinine question
Date:   8/5/2019 5:04:18 PM

Most Democrats and most American are in favor of letting a woman make her own decisions about her own body but I don’t know one single person who is in favor of “murdering babies”!  I do know that several years ago a man ran for Congress as a Republican advocating jailing all homosexuals...he lost to a pro-choice Democrat.  Ok l answered your question, now are you going to answer mine or do you plan to continue to bob and weave?





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Huh? When, where, what and who?
Date:   8/5/2019 6:05:49 PM





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Assuming we were as divided in the Obama years
Date:   8/5/2019 6:10:58 PM (updated 8/5/2019 6:13:46 PM)

(an assumption l strongly reject...neither this forum not Lake Martin is typical of America) what is Trump and his base (that includes you l imagine) doing to restore unity?  Let’s have some concrete examples!   





Name:   CRD - Email Member
Subject:   I’ll answer you asinine question
Date:   8/5/2019 6:31:52 PM

Your party has a challenge in simply defining racism.  Once you define it, then you can make categorical accusations.   





Name:   Carlson - Email Member
Subject:   Huh? When, where, what and who?
Date:   8/5/2019 6:49:57 PM

Not replying to you.  Read the posts before yours.  See ya





Name:   HARRY - Email Member
Subject:   Assuming we were as divided in the Obama years
Date:   8/5/2019 6:54:55 PM

Didn’t say he was doing anything to repair the division. Simply saying don’t blame it on Trump. This country was divided before he was sworn in.





Name:   Shortbus - Email Member
Subject:   Here's how we look to the rest of the world.
Date:   8/5/2019 8:55:49 PM





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Bob and Weave...Shuck and Jive
Date:   8/6/2019 8:03:28 PM (updated 8/6/2019 8:06:12 PM)

I'm still waiting for an answer.  You define racist as you want and then tell me if you think that most whites that meet your definition are Trump supporters are not.





Name:   Buteye - Email Member
Subject:   Bob and Weave...Shuck and Jive
Date:   8/6/2019 9:08:38 PM

Why don't you ask yourself "what are you doing to restore unity"? Let's have some concrete examples!!!!!!!!!





Name:   CRD - Email Member
Subject:   Bob and Weave...Shuck and Jive
Date:   8/7/2019 2:14:04 PM

Happy to supply a hard definition of racism.  Go to Boortz.  But I don't buy your assumption that "racists" are an exclusive caucasion club.  Of the non caucasions that meet my definition, how many do you think would be Obama supporters?  Majority?  Again, I ask what is your stupid point?





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Bob and Weave...Shuck and Jive...ad infinitum
Date:   8/7/2019 11:51:27 PM (updated 8/8/2019 12:00:07 AM)

Good grief.. Of course not all ''racists'' are Caucasian regardless of the definition and you know I expressed no such assumption.  I think Al Sharpton is probably a BLACK racist, Maxine Waters is probably a BLACK racist, Jeramiah Wright is definitely a BLACK racist,  Louis Farrakahn is definitely a BLACK racist, BLACK Lives Matter is a BLACK racist organization!

Lets both agree with Boortz's definition of racist OK!....As I recall it is basically: Racist...One who considers one racial group is mentally and/or physically superior to another and that the superior racial group should have political and economic dominion over the inferior racial groups.*

Now answer the damn question...Do most Caucasian Racists (as defined by Neal Boortz) in this nation today support Donald Trump?  The initial answer is one word, a yes or no.  If no, explain why you are of the opinion that most Caucasian racists (as per the Neal Boortz definition) are not generally Trump supporters.  What is your concrete evidence...there must be some?

So, do you have the guts to answer or not?!

Put up or shut up!!

* A little lagniappe:  Boortz also correctly pointed out that many who were called racists were actually simply bigots.  Well I think most Trump supporters are not bigots either but most bigots are Trump supporters.  He get both for the price of one!





Name:   CRD - Email Member
Subject:   Bob and Weave...Shuck and Jive...ad infinitum
Date:   8/8/2019 12:38:57 PM

Archie, now we are getting somewhere.  Your question is all conjecture.  What would any answer signal to you?  I am not one to be blamed for ducking any questions, I will gladly answer when I feel that my response improves the likelihood of a valid conclusion.  I know where you are headed, and I won't play your game.

 





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Bob and Weave...Shuck and Jive...ad infinitum
Date:   8/8/2019 1:06:30 PM

Archie is the king of the loaded question.  Answering it at all implies consent with what is stated in the question.  Example:  Did you know your mother is a prostitute?





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Answer Mr H
Date:   8/9/2019 10:18:30 AM (updated 8/9/2019 10:21:23 AM)

''No I was not aware that my mother was a prostitute and in fact do not believe she was.  Now dammit, explain to me just why the hell you think she was was including verifiable evidence?''  You see your question asked for a yes or no...mine asked for a yes or no and then for an explanation.

My question was whether CRD agreed with the statement regarding Trump's supporters.  That is not a ''loaded'' question...I also requested an explanation of why he felt that way.  If it's good for defending my mother it should be good for defending your support of a politician.

''Bob and weave / chuck and jive''.....this should be the motto for the Trump supporters who dominate this forum anytime they are challenged to explain or justify certain aspects of that support!!

BTW:  CRD continues to bob and weave and chuck and jive in a way that would make a politician proud.





Name:   CRD - Email Member
Subject:   Answer Mr H
Date:   8/9/2019 6:10:32 PM

HRC is not a militant left wing activist, I would suggest that most of her supporters were not militant left wing activists, but how many militant, left wing activists (AKA Antifa) were HRC supporters?  





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Very few
Date:   8/10/2019 2:51:31 PM (updated 8/10/2019 2:59:58 PM)

I suspect.  Most ANTIFA's strike me as being ''Black'' racists (including those who are white), anarchists, and complete nuts and doubt very many of them voted at all.  The same applies to BLM! OK, there's my answer.  Where's yours?

BTW: Do you assign moral equivalance of all ''Militant right wing activist'' with racists?  I don't





Name:   CRD - Email Member
Subject:   Very few
Date:   8/11/2019 12:56:23 PM

Your question was about supporters.  







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