Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Missouri Wal Mart Incident
Date:	8/9/2019 10:09:47 PM (updated 8/9/2019 10:11:45 PM)

So the guy didn't fire a shot and gave up peacefully, stating later he wanted to see if Wal Mart would honor his second amendment rights.

He was just plain stupid, unless his motive was suicide by cop.  I guarantee if I see someone in my neighborhood Wal Mart, Winn Dixie, Publix, or wherever armed and dressed like that my concealed carry piece will immediately be unconcealed and the idiot challenged to drop his weapon(s).  I might end up dead but that brief interruption to the perp's plans might give some a chance to escape who might not otherwise be so lucky.  And who knows, if his first shot aimed at me misses he might be the one pushing up daisies. 

Seems like such a "good guy" confrontation is what the former public safety gent did in Missouri and thankfully nobody was shot or killed.  But I really wonder, what in the world was going through that kid's mind? 

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Missouri Wal Mart Incident
Date:	8/9/2019 10:48:18 PM

It will be interesting to follow the trial. The probable cause document quoted Andreychenko as saying he “wanted to know if Walmart honored the Second Amendment.” He said he had bought the rifle and body armor because of three recent shootings and a stabbing, and wanted to protect himself. The prosecutor is charging him with a crime similar to shouting fire in a theater. A good attorney may well get him off.

"On Sunday, Jan. 1, 2017, Senate Bill 656 went into effect. This new law allows open and concealed carry throughout the state, for those 19 years or older, with or without a concealed carry permit.

Background checks will still be required for gun purchases, but no permit, license or registration will be required to purchase rifles, shotguns and handguns."

Maybe, the law has to be changed to limit what can be carried.

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Missouri Wal Mart Incident
Date:	8/9/2019 11:17:24 PM

Well intended maybe but misguided.  He is lucky to still be on the green side of the grass.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Missouri Wal Mart Incident
Date:	8/10/2019 4:14:38 PM

This is why I never go to Walmart  He may have been testing his 2nd Amendment rights, but he sure picked a bad time to do it.  I think some people must be born fools.  Behavior like this makes me glad I renewed my concealed carry this week.  

Name:	sdonn -	Reply
Subject:	Missouri Wal Mart Incident
Date:	8/13/2019 6:30:17 PM

  This gun carrying guy was released today on $10,000. bond  Charged with making a terroristic threat, facing 4-7 years in prison and deportation.  He was born in Ukrain and came here at age two. He's 20 now, married with a small child.  He did an interview with local station today.  He said he talked to the manager of the store before he went there and asked if it was ok to carry a long gun in the store because he didn't want to leave it in the car.  He was told, accordig to him, that it would be fine.  He had the rifle hanging on his shoulder, pointed down and never touched it.  Said nobody paniced or said anything to him.  When the manager pulled the fire alarm everybody left the store peacefully and he didn't even realize the alarm was because of him.  He said, of course it was stupid considering the recent shooting, which never crossed his mind.  He said he did a very stupid thing and is lucky to be alive, thankful the retired fireman was professionally trained and didn't just open fire.  The interview was on KY3tv in Springfied MO (where I live) not sure if it's online.  I believe I heard that he has retained Dee Wampler, who is one of the biggest Defense lawyers in town.  Besides the stupidity of it, I heard the charge requires making an actual threat, which he didn't.  It's an open carry state.  It's not unusual to see people with handguns.  It will be interesting to follow.  I haven't heard anything about the legality of the FMret drawing on him and holding him until police arrived, just a few minutes.  While I wouldn't question the sensibilty of it, I wonder if it was actually legal.  I'm not up on all the legalities. But it looks like the law could use some refining.