Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	All you anti-immigrant
Date:	8/12/2019 3:43:48 PM

bigots, like all the other hardcore racists out there, turn out to be in the minority. There are still far too many of you in this country, but not enough to elect the next POTUS or keep Congress red. Just sayin'.... 

Most continue to favor legal status for undocumented immigrants

Name:	Subrosa -	Reply
Subject:	All you anti-immigrant
Date:	8/12/2019 8:11:18 PM

I live in a very rural county east of the Mississippi, and no, it’s not in Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi or Georgia.  

Some of our county still to this day has no zoning and most of the rest of it has multiple-use zoning which is next to no zoning.  When zoning was first discussed for the county, there were a couple of old demagogues with long years of service on county council and lots of power.  We’ve had a good many retirees “from away” move here and of course they saw the need for zoning because most of them had lived with it where they came from.  Well, the old demagogues did their demagogery and had the locals trained to practically foam at the mouth every time someone even said the word “zoning.”  They told the locals their freedom and their way of life was at stake so the locals went all in on anti-zoning.  Now that we have the system we do, people are beginning to see the error of their ways.  We’ve had cement plants go up right next to mansions and we have horse venues dump lots-full of manure next to neighborhoods to name just 2 issues zoning would have prevented.

Those old demagogues didn’t care — they got re-elected and some of their faithful followers still foam at the mouth when they hear the word “zoning”.

That’s what’s going on in the Dimwit party right now.  Just say “Trump” or “racism” or “immigration” around them and they virtually start to turn their heads 360 degrees and spew pea soup. If they were capable of this much introspection, they would be appalled that they have fallen in line with the thinking of a bunch of hayseeds way out in the sticks with little education.  BUT THEY HAVE!

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	All you anti-immigrant
Date:	8/12/2019 10:59:18 PM

Isn't Sardis Lake in Mississippi????

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	You have
Date:	8/13/2019 9:13:02 AM (updated 8/13/2019 9:13:25 AM)

done an excellent job of describing the attitudes of people like yourself. Just say "Democrat" or "socialism" in the presence of a MAGAt, and you'll get a Pavlovian regurgitation of talking points from Breitbart, Infowars, Faux News, and the like. Say n***er in their presence when there are only white folks around, and they'll laugh and offer you a drink.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	You are so right
Date:	8/13/2019 10:22:36 AM (updated 8/13/2019 10:30:23 AM)

and every single trump supporter knows it but very few will admit it!  My thinking is that some will not admit it because they actually love SOB and what he is doing (these are the scary true believers) and many will not admit it because, even though they are appalled at what the presidency has become, they are too embarrassed to admit that their vote was a mistake and are forced to be apologists for this international desaster.

Subrosa is abviously one of the true believers...wonder what he would ask for when WIX or Phil offers him that drink/

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	You have
Date:	8/13/2019 10:46:21 AM

Not really Doe Doe.  Don't need talking points.  Did not attend public schools therefore I can think for myself based upon what I learned about those subjects from an independent teaching curriculum.  Now you and Archie otoh........

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Well excuuuuuse me
Date:	8/13/2019 11:28:56 AM

Had I known you had a private school education and therefore obviously of superior intellect, I would have tried to show the proper  deference owed to my betters.  Please forgive my error...axxhole!

Name:	Subrosa -	Reply
Subject:	Wrong!!!
Date:	8/13/2019 11:30:54 AM

I have 4 biracial grandchildren, you dolt.

Name:	Subrosa -	Reply
Subject:	Found this forum when I googled Lake Sardis
Date:	8/13/2019 11:35:14 AM

Remember the murder of the young girl by her off-and-on boyfriend who was furious when she wouldn’t get an abortion?  I read an article online that said the crime happened on Lake Sardis, I googled it, and found this forum.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	Well excuuuuuse me
Date:	8/13/2019 11:37:15 AM

 Calm down Arch, never mentioned anything about superior intellect.  I simply made the point that curriculum of public schools and that of private schools can be quite different.  The majority of both my and my children's classmates certainly don't require talking points in order to aptly define socialism and its effects on society at large.  Get the chip off of your shoulder.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	Wrong!!!
Date:	8/13/2019 11:47:40 AM (updated 8/13/2019 11:50:30 AM)

Q: How can I be a racist if I'm friends with black people?

A: The same way a serial killer can be friends with people who are still alive.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	You have
Date:	8/13/2019 11:49:23 AM

"Don't need talking points." 

Agreed. You're already well-stocked with them.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	You have
Date:	8/13/2019 12:01:16 PM

Clever and insightful.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	True
Date:	8/13/2019 1:24:15 PM (updated 8/13/2019 1:36:27 PM)

You said nothing about a suerior intellect but the implication was obvious to anyone not as narrow minded as you.  Sad fact is you are so "certain" in your beliefs that you are just as unaware of the obvious implication as you are that you are spouting "talking points" on a regular basis without even recognizing what you are doing.  That same bias is also what makes you unable to recognize at best bigoted and at worst downright racist rhetoric when you hear it.

You have a "private " school education so I'm sure you can tell me who said "The most important knowledge is the knowledge that you know very little." was it Aristotle or Socrates?  Of course whoever it was, he didn't know you.

Name:	Subrosa -	Reply
Subject:	Wrong!!!
Date:	8/13/2019 3:14:46 PM

Friends with?  These are my grandchildren!!!

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Wrong!!!
Date:	8/13/2019 3:19:34 PM (updated 8/13/2019 3:20:15 PM)

But just because you have accepted them into your family, help take care of them, do all the things a loving grandparent does - it does not disprove that you are racist - well actually it just proves that JD is an idiot and just repeats liberal talking points and pastes images from far left resist websites and does not actually know anything - well its what the left with believe to be true that matters in their echo chamber.

Congrats on being a human being, yet still labled with the latest ist/ism because of their feelings vs actions/facts.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	True
Date:	8/13/2019 3:35:05 PM

So your implication, Arch ol boy, is that at best I am a bigot and at worst, a racist.  I can imply as well as you can.  Superior intellect and all....

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	You have
Date:	8/13/2019 3:48:21 PM (updated 8/13/2019 3:51:06 PM)

"Did not attend public schools"

My guess is that you're saying, in a roundabout sort of way, that you attended private school. (Or maybe you were homeschooled by your mommy? That would explain a lot.) FYI, just like their public counterparts, private schools are all over the map, quality-wise. A good many of them were founded specifically for the purpose of preserving racial segregation.

Now, maybe you went to a really prestigious private prep school like this one: The Dalton School

Impressive, right? That's where Jeffrey Epstein, who lacked a degree, was hired by Donald Barr, Billy Barr's dad, to teach calculus and physics. Weren't his students  - especially the girls - fortunate?

"therefore I can think for myself"

Publicly available evidence would suggest otherwise.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	Wrong!!!
Date:	8/13/2019 3:54:24 PM

"These are my grandchildren!!!"

The biggest, most overt racist I personally am acquainted with - keep in mind that I grew up in Alabama  - has mixed-race grandchildren.

FYI, I'm not saying you're a racist. I am saying that you made a statement that doesn't establish whether you are or not.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	If the shoe fits wear it
Date:	8/13/2019 5:01:15 PM

ol boy!!

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	J D
Date:	8/13/2019 5:06:21 PM (updated 8/13/2019 5:07:18 PM)

Well played “ol boy”!  You do have a way with words...one might almost think you went to a private school!

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	You have
Date:	8/13/2019 6:50:03 PM

This coming from someone whose majority of posts consist of facebook memes from liberal provocateurs, or attempts at denigration of intelligent conservatives who just so happen to think for themselves and don't buy into Dem extremism.  Waaaay too predictable Doe.  

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	If the shoe fits wear it
Date:	8/13/2019 6:51:54 PM

talking about superior intellect?  From you, I'll take the compliment.

Name:	Subrosa -	Reply
Subject:	Wrong!!!
Date:	8/13/2019 7:02:20 PM

You are sick

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	CRD accuses somebody else of being...predictable,
Date:	8/13/2019 7:35:47 PM (updated 8/13/2019 7:41:08 PM)

and has the gall to also claim them to be denigrating of ''intellegent conservatives who think for themselves''!  As Larry the Cable Guy would say... ''Now ah don't keer whut ye say...ats funny!''

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	Just Wondering CRD???????????
Date:	8/13/2019 8:45:43 PM

Probably not, my classmates would have pushed both the BMW AND Jaguar over the hill because they wanted a RED BARCHETTA.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	CRD accuses somebody else of being...predictable,
Date:	8/13/2019 8:46:54 PM

Don't know Larry.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	Just Wondering CRD???????????
Date:	8/13/2019 9:42:00 PM (updated 8/13/2019 9:42:36 PM)

"my classmates would have pushed both the BMW AND Jaguar over the hill because they wanted a RED BARCHETTA."

That looks like you're saying your "classmates" - and, by implication, yourself - were all born into money.

Why do you feel the need to communicate that to us? Insecurity? You should take that up with a professional counselor. What makes you think would we would believe such a statement from an anonymous poster in an online forum? You can make up any story you like here....

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	Just Wondering CRD???????????
Date:	8/13/2019 10:00:15 PM

Is it real or is it Memorex?

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Just Wondering CRD???????????
Date:	8/13/2019 10:27:42 PM

You are the one in need of a counselor.  I refer to the kids I went to school with as classmates...but I went to a Catholic school that had little to no tuition.  So much for coming from privilege.  My father was a clerk for the railroad and I grew up in a six room frame house in Arkansas, not exactly the wealthiest of states.  Your stretching the term "classmates" to reach the conclusions...or assertions you did is beyond ridiculous.   

BTW, I told you about myself, other than my name, in a post a couple or so weeks ago, and invited you to do the same.  Are you such a coward that you won't tell us something about where you come from?  Or are you a big fat lie, posing as the liberal riding in on a white horse to save the world from us evil, bigoted, racist conservatives?  You certainly haven't earned any "creds" on this venue.

I have watched your posts, and seen you paint anyone who disagrees with your views with a very broad negative brush, and have to say whether it means anything to you or not, that I don't respect the person you present on this forum.  If you want respect you have to give respect and I see none from you.  

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	CRD accuses somebody else of being...predictable,
Date:	8/13/2019 10:53:17 PM

If you had gone to and associated with the type folks who went to public school you probably would.  I'm sure Larry is not the kind of comic who would appeal to the hoity toity set.  Actually, though he is well known to the Blue collar Trumpistas that is more typcal of his ''base''.  Old Larry is definitely too low brow for the Woodward Academy/Westminster/Arlington crowd.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	CRD accuses somebody else of being...predictable,
Date:	8/13/2019 11:01:24 PM

Oh, he is a comic.  Is he Scottish?  You did an admirable job of typing in brogue. 

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	CRD accuses somebody else of being...predictable,
Date:	8/13/2019 11:22:01 PM

You and Jack, the female deer are great at making broad assumptions based on significantly less than perfect knowledge of what you are talking about.  It is true that some private schools are "hoity toity" but most, at least in our area, don't come anywhere close to that.  They exist because the public school system in Montgomery, Alabama is a disaster once you get beyond the elementary grades.  People scrimp and save so they can afford the tuition for a private scchoo,l not to feed their kids' egos, but to get them a decent education.  

And yes, some private schools came to being in the fifties because at the time parents didn't want to deal with the integration issue.  But you know what?  That was the fifties, not the late twenty-teens.  My son and daughter graduated from a private school in Montgomery and their classmates included all ethnicities and a broad range of economic strata.  We couldn't really afford to send them there but we couldn't afford not to.  So while the "lily white" description might have been accurate at one time, it is no more.  

You and JD are wrong to so quickly place people on this forum into your neat...and negative...cubby holes, but if you have never met the other posters and sat down to really talk with them your accusations of racism, bigotry, and the other negative things aren't worth a plug nickel. 

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	CRD accuses somebody else of being...predictable,
Date:	8/13/2019 11:51:26 PM (updated 8/13/2019 11:52:27 PM)

"It is true that some private schools are "hoity toity" but most, at least in our area, don't come anywhere close to that." 

Either you've been drinking, or your reading comprehension is really, really bad. CRD made reference to not attending public school in one post, then in a later one said his classmates would have trashed a BMW or a Jaguar because they would have wanted a "Barchetta" instead. That name means "little boat" in Italian and has been applied to a number of Italian sports and racing cars since the end of WWII. Ambiguity notwithstanding, the implication is that his classmates were above trifling with mere BMWs and Jaguars and would insist on getting real cars when they turned 16. Now, go back and read the thread - carefully this time - and the light may come on. Or not.

"People scrimp and save so they can afford the tuition for a private scchoo, l not to feed their kids' egos, but to get them a decent education."

Some people may indeed do that. However, if you're really concerned about the quality of education your children are getting, there is alternative: become active in your public school system. Join the PTA. Volunteer to help teachers. Attend Board of Education meetings. That kind of thing. Did you consider trying that?

"And yes, some private schools came to being in the fifties because at the time parents didn't want to deal with the integration issue.  But you know what?  That was the fifties",

Actually, it was from 1954 to 1976, at which time the SCOTUS ruled against tax-exempt status for schools that discriminated.

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	CRD accuses somebody else of being...predictable,
Date:	8/14/2019 12:15:36 AM

My reply was to Archie, not CRD, and Archie used the term "hoity toity". I am not responding to CRD.  Are you, like Goofy, unable to understand the structure of the forum?

And we tried to make public schools work for us but when your kid gets in trouble because he finishes the hour's work in five minutes and is expected to sit there doing nothing for the rest of the hour what is he to do?  We asked if he could be assigned more work to keep him occupied and the answer was flat "no".  Plus his English teacher sent a note home one time that had so many grammatical and spelling errors it was almost incomprehensible  

Do you live in Montgomery?  Have you tried to work with the school systemere?  Are you aware that the biggest problem is not the kids but the parents whose first reaction is "my kid can do no wrong, it must be the teacher's fault"?  Don't even try to lay a guilt trip on me for getting my kids out of that sick environment.  You are quick to judge, and unless you provide some evidence to prove that you are qualified to comment your opinion is nothing more than letters on a computer screen.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	CRD accuses somebody else of being...predictable,
Date:	8/14/2019 8:48:36 AM

"My reply was to Archie, not CRD,"

I did not assert otherwise.

"and Archie used the term "hoity toity"."

He did so in response to multiple CRD posts, not just to the assertion that CRD had not gone to public schools.

"And we tried to make public schools work for us"

If your kid's education is really a top priority for you, then choosing where you live with that in mind might be a good idea. Remind me: where does Alabama rank nationally for quality of primary and secondary education?

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	CRD accuses somebody else of being...predictable,
Date:	8/14/2019 9:11:34 AM

At that time the Air Force chose where I lived.  As to your comment about Alabama education you helped make my point.  The schools are underfunded, but throwing money at it won't solve the problem.  Again, the kids have to be willing to learn but many parents apparently don't impress on them the value of education and see the teacher as an adversary rather than a valued asset.  The exception, at least in Montgomery, are the Magnet Schools, highly sought after by those parents who DO value a good education, and they deliver.  

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	CRD accuses somebody else of being...predictable,
Date:	8/14/2019 10:25:27 AM

Archie, if you carefully research where the children of many past and current Dem Congressmen and Senators went to college, you will find that many of them attended what you would call "hoity toity" colleges such as Harvard, Yale, Brown and Stanford.    I bet that many qualified "commoners" were denied admission because of the money these admissions generated for the schools, not in tuition payments, but in government handouts.  If I attended "hoity toity" schools, it was only to level the playing field for admission, in order to compete against these "privileged" students, as none of my parents served in Congress.  Denigrate me as privileged, a bigot, racist and I will throw it right back at you 10 times over.   I say it again, you and Doe get the chips off your shoulders, admire what some individuals through hard work and discipline have been able to accomplish, and wallow in your TDS.  Almost sounds like you guys are jealous.

Name:	Buteye -	Reply
Subject:	CRD accuses somebody else of being...predictable,
Date:	8/14/2019 11:48:22 AM (updated 8/14/2019 11:50:13 AM)

When does it come time to start a new "subject"? After 42 posts it becomes hard to remember what started this whole line of expressing ones "opinions".

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	CRD accuses somebody else of being...predictable,
Date:	8/14/2019 1:09:35 PM

"Archie, if you carefully research where the children of many past and current Dem Congressmen and Senators went to college, you will find that many of them attended what you would call "hoity toity" colleges such as Harvard, Yale, Brown and Stanford." 

If you would do a little research yourself, you would know that the majority of students attending Ivy League schools receive substantial financial assistance. I know this firsthand. If a student qualifies for admission to Harvard and decides to go there, financial issues will not prevent them from doing so.

 "I bet that many qualified "commoners" were denied admission because of the money these admissions generated for the schools,"

You'd lose that bet.

"admire what some individuals through hard work and discipline have been able to accomplish,"

When someone makes a statement like this, it is almost universally the case that they perceive themselves to be financially successful and solely responsible for their financial status. In an earlier post you said:

"my classmates would have pushed both the BMW AND Jaguar over the hill because they wanted a RED BARCHETTA."

Which implies that you were born into money.

So which is it? Did you come from a poor family that you had to help support, work full time to pay your way to college (which BTW is no longer possible even at public schools), work your way up in your chosen profession from an entry-level job or internship, or did Daddy buy you a new car at 16, get you into college and jobs by pulling strings, etc.? It isn't both....

Most people with money did nothing to earn that money, e.g., the current generation of Waltons, Kochs, Bushes, Drumpfs, et al.

Most people who work hard in good faith never have a lot of money. Are you trying to say their accomplishments are not deserving of your respect?

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Man I wish I had written that post!! Well said
Date:	8/16/2019 11:13:53 AM (updated 8/16/2019 11:17:30 AM)

Interesting that is has now been up 2 days and the usual suspects have followed usual SOP...Obfuscate, say ''well so what, (insert name of any Democrat) did it too'', or not reply at all!