Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, MAGAts
Date:	10/9/2019 6:41:01 PM (updated 10/9/2019 6:44:07 PM)

Fox News Poll: Record support for Trump impeachment

TLDR: in Faux News' own poll, a majority favor impeachment and removal from office.

For the conveniently skeptical among you, the source:

Fox News Poll results October 6-8, 2019

The writing is on the wall. Your unwillingness to read it won't make it go away....

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, MAGAts
Date:	10/9/2019 7:27:28 PM

Probably a land line poll answered by you Dems sitting on your a##es at home with mommy while the rest of the adults are at work making America great again.  Fox News also said a majority were against Kavanaugh's nomination before all the truth came out.  Yawn...

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Yeah CRD,
Date:	10/9/2019 7:46:08 PM

Yawn today and weep Jan 20' 2020!

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	Yeah CRD,
Date:	10/9/2019 8:11:28 PM

So who are you throwing your money behind Archie?  Ukraine money launderer Uncle Joe, Lying Grey Beaver, Cardiac Bern or someone to be named later?  Perhaps even Hildebeast?  Say it ain't so......

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	johnny-doo-doo
Date:	10/9/2019 10:18:12 PM

Haven’t you heard.....Trump is demanding that the dimokrap idiots impeach him.  Your idiot politicians don’t know what to do, now that Trump has refused to cooperate with the pee-losi kangaroo court.  Impeach him now....do it, idiots!!!

Name:	lucky67 -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, MAGAts
Date:	10/9/2019 10:40:47 PM

If Dems do succeed you'd wish you had sold your home & sent your savings to the Caymans

Name:	Subrosa -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, MAGAts
Date:	10/10/2019 3:43:53 PM

Polls lie — remember the last election?  The biggest reason polls are inaccurate today is that once a person comes out with their political beliefs, they are punished for it.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, MAGAts
Date:	10/10/2019 3:51:32 PM

You can make a poll say anything you want with how you structure your sample / oversample.  The poll is then used in the court of public opinion to push narratives.  It is rarely about actual information, but pushing the talking point.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, MAGAts
Date:	10/10/2019 8:23:02 PM (updated 10/10/2019 8:23:24 PM)

"You can make a poll say anything you want with how you structure your sample / oversample."

Maybe you should read more carefully, phil; you just dug yourself a deep hole there. Try again: the poll was conducted by Faux News. If they were going to manipulate the sample and the wording of questions in order to skew the results, it would be to favor, not harm, #45. If they really did as you allege, then actual public sentiment would be even more in favor of impeachment than the poll shows.

Read the OP again, and let this sink in:

The writing is on the wall. Your unwillingness to read it won't make it go away....

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, MAGAts
Date:	10/11/2019 8:46:45 AM (updated 10/11/2019 8:48:45 AM)

Oh that is some funny chit right there.  Yup I call them Faux news too because they are.  They suck, but not as bad as CNN, which seems to be what you are glued to all day. I do not watch news from MSM, I go to about 50 news sites a day to read, not have my news spun and spoon fed to me via talking points. Faux news has been going further and further left in recent years, Hell, they hired Donna Brazil after she was caught passing on questions to Hillary for debates/townhalls.  Their credability is shot, if they were going to hire a democrat, they could at least hire one that was not crooked, but then again maybe it is really hard to find a demonrat that has not totally sold its soul.

As for accuracy of the poll see MM's answer a little further down questioning oversampling, I knew it was a fox news poll, and no I do not put any credability behind it or most any other - they are used to shape opinion and drive public opinion.  I stand by my comments.

 As to my need to stop digging a hole? - If you are not Antifatech, I am almost positive you have to be his son/grandson and probably live in his basement.  Your posts, while predictable, are getting more and more shrill - the only time we see this level of insanity is usually right before really bad news for democrats.  

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, MAGAts
Date:	10/11/2019 9:01:05 AM

"I go to about 50 news sites a day to read"

Hmmm. Given that you're so ignorant of current events, a thinking person could be excused for reacting to the above with a bit of skepticism. List your top ten "news" sites. If your statement is accurate, you'll have no difficulty rattling them off.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, MAGAts
Date:	10/11/2019 9:08:13 AM (updated 10/11/2019 9:08:36 AM)

Says the man who posts a poll from fox news as gospel and then turns around and calls them FAUX News ?

Bhahahahahaha 

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, MAGAts
Date:	10/11/2019 10:16:11 AM

Rather than resort to ad hominem (look it up) attacks, you need to respond to actual statements I've made.

You failed to list any of the alleged 50 "news" sites you visit daily. I call BS. My money says you get your "news" from Breitbart, Daily Stormer, and the like. You could correct me by posting your top ten, but you won't, because you can't.

Tell us: which of the following do you believe to be false?

You said that a poll can be made to produce an arbitrary result by the appropriate choice of wording of questions and population sample.

Faux News is biased in favor of #45, flagrantly and publicly.

Because of the above, if Faux News is going to manipulate a poll, they will do so to favor #45.

For that reason, if the poll I linked is suspect, the actual result is that even more people favor impeachment than the poll indicates.

You must like the smell of dirt, as you insist on digging the hole you're in deeper and deeper with every reply.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, MAGAts
Date:	10/11/2019 12:34:39 PM (updated 10/11/2019 1:23:55 PM)

Tell us: which of the following do you believe to be false?

True - You said that a poll can be made to produce an arbitrary result by the appropriate choice of wording of questions and population sample.

False, just not as corrupt as CNN and most MSM - Faux News is biased in favor of #45, flagrantly and publicly.

False -see strawman  - Because of the above, if Faux News is going to manipulate a poll, they will do so to favor #45.

For that reason, if the poll I linked is suspect, the actual result is that even more people favor impeachment than the poll indicates.

Nope - look at the sampling of the poll  see the MM posts below about the oversampling of D's and the undersampling of I's.  

You must like the smell of dirt, as you insist on digging the hole you're in deeper and deeper with every reply.

Seems you like the smell of manure - because that is where you are digging your holes.  

And so by your "examples" all of MSM polls should be ignored due to the fact that the majority of the MSM leans left and based on your reasoning they will favor a D canidate.  Thanks for making my point for me in that they manipulate it to push an agenda.

Or are you now going to come out and say that while Faux news leans right and supports trump, all the rest or unbiased and neutral?  Oh please say that and we can then know for a fact you are a full of chit demonrat, and not just have our suspicions and opinions.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, MAGAts
Date:	10/11/2019 4:23:24 PM (updated 10/11/2019 4:38:55 PM)

"False, just not as corrupt as CNN and most MSM" - regarding "Faux News is biased in favor of #45, flagrantly and publicly."

If it is not abundantly clear to you that Faux News is biased in favor of #45, then you are almost as delusional as he is.

BTW, you still haven't answered my request to name your top ten news sources. Your failure to respond is compelling evidence that you were equivocating (look it up) when you said you regularly visit fifty news sites.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, MAGAts
Date:	10/11/2019 4:48:02 PM (updated 10/11/2019 4:49:13 PM)

And I am not going to answer your demand.  I know what I do, and yes I have counted my bookmarks and there are 50+ with a majority  left leaning ( because I like to keep track of just how nutty the demonrats are, and there are just not that many good conservative sites ) It is a keep your friends close, and your enemies closer type thing.

Just because you demand something does not mean you are going to get it.  I gladly admited that Faux is not as biased against the President as is the rest of the MSM, While you and I disagree that just because you are not biased against something does not mean you favor it and go out of your way to promote it - but I would have to say after being trapped at the airport watching CNN, Faux is much more balanced in its opinions. CNN, like yourself is absolutly unhinged.  

Now what I will happily post regarding your instanity is that you post a poll from "FAUX" news and then proceed to bash.  So while you do not agree with "FAUX" news you will happily use it since it fits your bias and more importantly your narrative.  I guess you and FAUX news has something in common - I do not trust either of you.

I can only wonder what bad news is on the horizon for demonrats.  I do hope they hurry up, because I feel that this whole impeachment debacle is to get in front of some information that will explain all of this "Russia Russia Russia".

Keep shoveling that manure.

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, MAGA
Date:	10/11/2019 6:27:14 PM

You are confusing Fox News with Fox commentary.  Yes the primetime lineup is conservative in the OPINIONS they express but the News team is far from conservative.  Shep Smith is an insufferable dolt, Napolitono has lost his mind (Trump says becuase he told him no on a SCOTUS nomination),  Donna Brazille and Geraldo make me change the channel reflexively. The upper management is all left leaning.  

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, MAGA
Date:	10/11/2019 6:27:15 PM

You are confusing Fox News with Fox commentary.  Yes the primetime lineup is conservative in the OPINIONS they express but the News team is far from conservative.  Shep Smith is an insufferable dolt, Napolitono has lost his mind (Trump says becuase he told him no on a SCOTUS nomination),  Donna Brazille and Geraldo make me change the channel reflexively. The upper management is all left leaning.  

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, MAGAts
Date:	10/12/2019 9:02:51 AM (updated 10/12/2019 9:05:35 AM)

"yes I have counted my bookmarks and there are 50+"

Wow. You counted all the way past 50. Must have been a real strain for you to get past 21.

"Now what I will happily post regarding your instanity is that you post a poll from "FAUX" news and then proceed to bash."

You're still digging that hole. It's not just Faux News polls that show a majority in favor of impeachment. If you really were reading "50+"  news sites every day, you'd know that.

Here, let me google that for you.

Or we could use duckduckgo.

Or bing if you prefer.

The rats are leaving the sinking ship in ever-increasing numbers. Unlike yourself, they know quite well that #45 is a traitor and a criminal.

Name:	Subrosa -	Reply
Subject:	Yeah CRD,
Date:	10/12/2019 3:33:05 PM

Archie, you’ll be cryin’ then.  There’s nothing you can do; although we all know you’ll be trying to drum up more hoaxes & witch hunts, with their attendant committee political drama, accusations, subpoenas, and on and on.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Read it and weep, JaneBlow
Date:	10/14/2019 9:28:58 AM (updated 10/14/2019 10:03:39 AM)

https://nypost.com/2019/10/12/fox-news-pollster-braun-research-misrepresented-impeachment-poll-analysis/

The poll said 51% of voters were in favor of Trump’s impeachment and removal from office, while 40% did not want him impeached.

Princeton, New Jersey, pollster Braun Research, which conducted the survey, noted 48% of its respondents were Democrats. But the actual breakdown of party affiliation is 31% Democrat, 29% Republican and 38% independent, according to Gallup.

A poll weighted for party affiliation would have concluded that 44.9% favored impeachment and 44.4% opposed it, a Post analysis has concluded.

I will leave this here - let me know when you would like to be honest and quit shoveling your manure pile.