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Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   I have GDS
Date:   10/10/2019 11:12:16 PM (updated 10/10/2019 11:15:27 PM)

GIULIANI DERANGEMENT SYNDROME

Yep...Trump's appointmrnt for District Attorney for S. District of New York is closing in on Rudy Giuliani. Bolton is writing a book. Pompeo Senior Advisor resigns and Rudy must be peeing in his pants waiting for an indictment. All just announced today. Can't wait to see what tomorrow brings...

"Two Soviet-born members of Trump's fundraising committee who were helping Rudy Giuliani with his Ukraine conspiracy theory have been arrested for campaign finance violations."

Time for MM , Phil, FLY, and CRD to defend Rudy.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Any of you
Date:   10/11/2019 7:42:30 AM

Ever seen a real bad train wreck before? Stay tuned!





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   I have GDS
Date:   10/11/2019 8:34:13 AM

Arrested is not the same as convicted.  I consider this just more political theatre.

You may not be aware of this, but there has been a long term dissatisfaction at the State Department.  This goes back a number of Secretaries of State and several Administrations.  The Foreign Service Officers feel as though they are ignored, overlooked and generally insulted by the political appointeee, who tend to rely on their own circle of advisors.  So it is not unusual to see them quit when there is controversy.  I don't know Pompaeo, he may be a great guy, but I don't see him as a great Secretary of State.  He doesn't have any kind of diplomatic background.  No doubt at the moment he is taking his orders from Trump's lawyers.  

I have to say, this is the most widespread time of politics playing out from within the professional workforce.  I guess it is the TDS.

 





Name:   CRD - Email Member
Subject:   I have GDS
Date:   10/11/2019 11:40:26 AM

I have no interest in defending a private citizen who happens to be counsel for the POTUS.  He can do just fine himself.  Now will you defend what I saw from the progressive wing of your party on the streets last night in Minneapolis? Your party is in shambles, suffering from an absolute lack of leadership.  You defend mask wearing juveniles who throw urine at police and peaceful rally attendees, not to mention at innocent police horses who exhibited more poise and restraint than your crowd did.  Disgusting and I would be ashamed to welcome them into your big tent. 





Name:   flyfisher - Email Member
Subject:   I have GDS
Date:   10/11/2019 12:03:57 PM

it is rumored the Maitre'de and WH gate senior security guard, both with 45-50  years of service are co-writing a book about all the Past presidents, etc., etc., --details to follow





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   CRD
Date:   10/11/2019 12:29:02 PM

I have no interest in defending a group private citizens who happen to be throwing urine.  Now will you defend the NAZI wing of your party??   Disgusting and I would be ashamed to welcome them into your big tent. 





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   CRD
Date:   10/11/2019 12:36:45 PM

I assume you are referring to the Republican Party and if so, there is no "Nazi Wing".  It is the utmost in hypocrisy for you to decline representing pee-throwers and at the same time expect CRD to defend private citizens who espouse "Nazi" values.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   CRD
Date:   10/11/2019 3:53:16 PM

If you are a private citizen walking in a protest that includes several hundred men and women carrying torches, loaded weapons, wearing swastika armbands and chanting ''jews will not replace us'' do you deserve anybody's sympathy?  I mean other than of course Donald Trump's...''but many of them were very fine people.''*

*If you are walking beside sombody wearing a swastika and shouting anti-semitic slogans and you continue to walk beside him after you realize what is going on you are most certainly not a ''very fine person''!





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   CRD
Date:   10/11/2019 3:54:25 PM

The left, if they had no double standards they would have none at all.  What is different about a small group of neo-Nazi's and the Democrat left is one numbers in the hundreds while the other numbers in the tens to hundreds of thousands.  I tried to look and could not find neo-Nazi's at Democrat events harrassing attendees.  It happens at every one of Trump's events.  Left wingers, hypocrisy is thy name.





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   CRD
Date:   10/11/2019 3:59:32 PM

So you are saying that since the neo-nazis hate Trump and protest at his rallies, and do not protest the demonrat rallies - so the obvious answer is that demonrats and neo-nazis must be walking together ( if you need an more info log out and check the antifatech post above yours)

 

 





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   CRD
Date:   10/11/2019 4:15:59 PM

C'mon Archie, get a grip on reality here.  This lie about what Trump was saying was debunked a long time ago.  His point, and I completely agree with him, is that there are fine people on both sides of the issue of removing monuments for those that fought on the side of the South in the Civil War.  Many recognize it as a part of our history and should not be removed, not because they are Nazi's or White Supremacists, but because they see the Civil War as being not just about slavery but also about state's rights.  And there are good people on the other side that reasonably see these statues as celebrating the fight to preserve slavery and they should be removed.  Both have a fair point and this is a debate worth having in a civil way without resorting to name calling and violence.

And then there are small minority of fanatics on both sides of ideological divide that we should all condemn.  But before we can find common ground the left needs to stop lying about what Trump said and what he actually meant.  Until then, civil debate is not possible.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   CRD
Date:   10/11/2019 4:17:51 PM

I saw and responded to Archies post.  He is obviously part of the fringe left and is not reachable with facts, logic or reason.  I suspect he is all for violence against people wearing Trump hates and the antics of fascist groups like Antifa.  They are after all the base of the Democrat party.





Name:   johndoe - Email Member
Subject:   CRD
Date:   10/11/2019 4:37:06 PM (updated 10/11/2019 4:38:07 PM)

"Many recognize it as a part of our history and should not be removed,"

Those who believe that removing statues of Confederate officers and politicans will somehow destroy the record of their place in history will no doubt be pleasantly surprised to learn of the existence of books.

FYI, most Confederate monuments were erected in the 20th century, not to honor history, but to intimidate black people. The same goes for flying the battle flag of Virginia (incorrectly called the "Confederate" flag).

Also FYI, the historically accurate Confederate flag is the white flag of surrender. They lost, and that's a Very Good Thing.

"not because they are Nazi's or White Supremacists,"

According to them.

"but because they see the Civil War as being not just about slavery but also about state's rights."

Any time a Southern apologist invokes "states' rights," it's in defense of slavery, segregation, or legally-sanctioned discrimination. The "states' rights" that the South fought to preserve by going to war was the states' right to allow slave ownership.

You're just regurgitating the same old lies. The War Between the States was about slavery and nothing else. The South fired the first shot. Their generals and politicians do not deserve to be memorialized in publicly-funded monuments.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   MM and other Trumpistas
Date:   10/11/2019 7:37:19 PM (updated 10/11/2019 7:39:30 PM)

that dominate this forum... ''hypocrisy is THY name''!  Sad that none can see that truth.

 

BTW:  RE: Confederate monuments...can you name another country that erects monuments in praise of historical personages that indisputedly committed treason?

 





Name:   CRD - Email Member
Subject:   CRD
Date:   10/11/2019 7:43:06 PM

Doe Boy, you are an expert at copy and paste, but rational, uniquely individual debate is not your strong point.





Name:   flyfisher - Email Member
Subject:   CRD
Date:   10/11/2019 7:45:47 PM

Trump gets another promise done (China trade) will Pelosi Et al issue more subpoenas 





Name:   CRD - Email Member
Subject:   MM and other Trumpistas
Date:   10/11/2019 7:49:05 PM

Yeah right Neocon Archie...btw do you still want us in northern Syria protecting the Kurds?





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   MM and other Trumpistas
Date:   10/11/2019 7:59:54 PM

The Pentagon said YES...they are concerned, among abandoning the Kurds, that 10,000 ISIS prisoners are going to escape. I truly hope they are wrong and Trump is right. Time will tell..stay tuned.





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Mr HODJA
Date:   10/11/2019 8:07:52 PM

What is interesting is that you had no problem with CRD suggesting I would support peeing idiots but found my question to him about the possibility of him supporting Nazi's in the Republican party as hypocritical. You like to have us think as you of someone with character who is above pettiness. You can do better.

 

 





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Mr HODJA
Date:   10/11/2019 9:47:41 PM

Go back and read the post I responded to.  Nothing petty about pointing out that you would give the urine tossers a pass but would expect CRD to hold accountable what you called the Nazi wing of the Republican Party.  You can try to have it both ways but will be called out for it, whether by me or another poster who deals in logic rather than emotionalism. 

For the record I do not approve of extremists, no matter which side of the aisle they associate with.  Throwing urine is not an expression of free speach. Nor are the tactics of extremists on the right.  Just don't try to excuse one while vilifying the other.





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   MM and other Trumpistas
Date:   10/11/2019 11:46:12 PM

Frankly, having lived in Turkey for two years and knowing the centuries of bad blood between the Turks and Kurds, leaving the Kurds to the overwhelming military power of Turkey appears to be a bad decision.  If done just to fulfill a campaign promise and devoid of other reasons I fear the long term consequences could leave the US having to go it alone, should we need to engage militarily wherever that need might arise.  Now I hear we are threatening sanctions against Turkey for them doing what just about everyone knew they would do.  

I only hope there is a reason or reasons not readily apparent to those of us not "in the know".

And no, Archie, that doesn't mean I would trust any of the Democrat clowns to do any better, unless it were to be Tulsi Gabbard.  And even she has wacko ideas that would make a decision between her and Trump a very difficult one.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Mr HODJA
Date:   10/11/2019 11:47:37 PM

I will assume you give the same advice to each poster on this forum and to the president of the United States!





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Mr HODJA
Date:   10/11/2019 11:54:52 PM

I posted it in an open forum didn't I?





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   HEY HODJA
Date:   10/12/2019 12:02:14 AM

"Nothing petty about pointing out that you would give the urine tossers a pass but would expect CRD to hold accountable what you called the Nazi wing of the Republican Party."

Where the he** did I say that?  I said I have no interest in trying to defend them....How does that imply I support them????? You make no sense dude.





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   HEY HODJA
Date:   10/12/2019 12:12:38 AM

Do you have a comprehension problem?  Where did I say you SUPPORT the pee pitchers?  

 





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   HEY HODJA
Date:   10/12/2019 1:37:02 AM

 "Nothing petty about pointing out that you would give the urine tossers a pass." I never gave them a pass...I said I would never try to defend their actions of throwing urine. If they ask an attorney to defend them and he/she  says I would never try to defend your actions of throwing urine...Is that giving them a pass. I think not.

You just think that anyone on the left supports every action against Trump supporters. There are some pretty pathetic supporters of Trump just there are on the Left.





Name:   johndoe - Email Member
Subject:   I have GDS
Date:   10/13/2019 9:29:12 AM

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Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Treason?
Date:   10/14/2019 9:09:56 AM

Archie, if you understood the concept of Federalism you might better understand the genesis of this revolt.  That it solely became about slavery was the work of Lincoln, and wisely so because it galvanized support in the north.  But for many southerners at the time, it was about states rights and the concept of Federalism, of which and shamefully, the right to slavery was one of the issues.  But as I said in my earlier post about your abject lie about what Trump said, there are many reasonable people that think statues commemorating people like Robert E. Lee or other generals that fought for the south is inappropriate.  Fair enough.  If you think this way because you believe they committed treason then you are not in the reasonable category because they clearly didn't see it that way.  They saw it as defending state's rights to self determination.





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   MM and other Trumpistas
Date:   10/14/2019 9:31:34 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Lenin_(Seattle)

 

Do leftist states who put up statues of enemies of the US count?

 





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   HEY HODJA
Date:   10/14/2019 9:34:55 AM

Based on years of your posts if you do not condemn something then you fully support it.  







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