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Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Latest transcript another blow to the narrative
Date:   11/15/2019 11:06:14 AM

In what can only be called perfect timing Trump has released the transcript of his first call with Zelensky to congratulate him on his election win.  Pencil Neck was more bugeyed than usual.  Some notable things missing, no mention of the Bidens, invitation to visit the U.S. with no mention of conditions and no bashing of the former Ambassador who was apparently going to testify today that Trump bashed her to Zelensky in their first call....oh wait a second....in keeping with the third or fourth hand nature of this entire thing she was going to claim that she believed Trump bashed her on the call....based on I suppose her own paranoia and persecution complex or maybe it was that someone told her that they overhead both sides of a telephone call in a noisy restaurant that the persons on the call heard that someone told them they heard that Trump bashed her on the call with Zelensky.  So she is going to whine that there was a concerted effort to get her canned.......geez, when has that ever happened that a new administration cans ambassodors to put in their own people?!?!?  Answer.....every single time by every single president for all of time.  And like the prior day's star witnesses, she is going to whine about the President actually having his own opinion about foreign policy.......ya know, the thing we elected him to do and what the Constitution demands..... 

What Trump has done is demonstrate how the entrenched bureaucracy actually think that the unelected and unaccountable deep state actors are who should decide foreign policy...not the person we elect to that position.  Of course it's never an issue when you have someone like Obama in the WH because he willingly let them run things.  But suddenly it is different when it's a President who disagrees with them.





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Latest transcript another blow to the narrative
Date:   11/15/2019 1:00:49 PM

I'm listening to the former Amassador testify right now, and I think she is credible.  She was recalled before the election of the new President of Ukraine.  Her job was to convey U.S. policy to the Ukraine and she has stated she felt she was doing that.  Don't forget she worked for Trump for 2 years, before she was recalled.  I suspect her ouster had to do with Guiliani, and perhas he doesn't like women in high positions.  I am not a fan of Guiliani, and I think most of this comes from his poor handling.  Since the policy relationship has only gotten better under Trump, there would be no reason Yovanovitch would be against Trump.  

 

 





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Latest transcript another blow to the narrative
Date:   11/15/2019 1:09:12 PM

Credible about what?  She was gone before the call.  She has absolutely nothing to add other than she didn't agree with Trump's approach toward Ukraine or what Guiliani was doing.  And she is complaining about the fact that she served at the behest of the President and he chose to fire her.  This is an HR issue and has zero to do with anything else.  And remember, this is the woman who according to leaked testimony claimed Trump and Zelensky bashed her in their first call.....which we now know was false.  I get you don't like Guiliani or his involvement but this so-called "witness" is witness to nothing relevant to impeachment and is whining about being fired.  Like Taylor and Kent, most reasonable Americans will look at her testimony and rightly conclude that she is an aggrieved former employee that didn't like the fact that the President fulfilling his constitutional aurthority to hire and fire political appointees negatively impacted her.  She is there to get people all emotional that Trump was a meanie for firing her.....as if that has anything to do with impeachment.





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Latest transcript another blow to the narrative
Date:   11/15/2019 1:16:03 PM

I haven't heard her say any of that.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Latest transcript another blow to the narrative
Date:   11/15/2019 2:14:05 PM

Of course not.  Trump released the transcript of the first call.  She was gone before the July 25th call.  I literally do not know why she is even a witness.  Most of what is happening is Democrats bloviating about her wonderful career and how mean Trump is for firing her.  Fine, but what does that have to do with impeachment?  And all she is doing is agreeing that Trump has been much better toward Ukraine than Obama was and despite no investigation of the Biden's they have gotten the Javelin missile system and the funds.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Hound was right when she said
Date:   11/17/2019 7:21:13 PM (updated 11/17/2019 7:24:46 PM)

"MM you are hopeless!"

Read the official "Read out" of the April call released at the time of the call by the administration and compare it with the "transcript" of the call read by "Nutty indie picture" Nunez on Friday!  Which is the lie?  They are certainly different.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Hound was right when she said worse about you
Date:   11/18/2019 8:24:03 AM

So you have that going for you.  You are like a little child that says, "Yeah, what she said!"  As for the call, once again no quid and no quo, no extortion, no bribery and now Dems are getting so desparate that they are asking Trump to testify.  Sorry folks, but that ain't gonna happen.  The whole thing is falling apart which is why Pencil Neck is now asking people to vote against Trump in 2020.





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Latest transcript another blow to the narrative
Date:   11/18/2019 5:37:40 PM

I wondered why she was a witness myself.  She was gone before he delayed the funds or made any phonecalls.  I think they were havng a problem filling the willing testimony block.







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