Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	MM You Have All The Answers
Date:	6/18/2020 12:34:40 PM

Ship ‘em to China!

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Of course I do.....glad you realize it
Date:	6/18/2020 1:15:56 PM

That's great news as this is one of the most commonly prescribed drugs in the world with over 5 million doses prescribed each year.  So we have plenty of supply to treat malaria, lupus and other diseases as it has for the last 35 years.  Besides, numerous other countries are using it successfully to treat Wuhan ChiCom Chinese virus so they can use it.  All good news......

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Of course I do.....glad you realize it
Date:	6/18/2020 1:20:55 PM

Mr Know It All...please enlighten us and  list those countries that know more than our Doctors?

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Another opportunity to be right...thanks!
Date:	6/18/2020 1:52:09 PM

An international poll of thousands of doctors rated the Trump-touted anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine the best treatment for the novel coronavirus.  Of the 6,227 physicians surveyed in 30 countries, 37 percent rated hydroxychloroquine the “most effective therapy” for combating the potentially deadly illness, according to the results released Thursday.

The survey, conducted by the global health care polling company Sermo, also found that 23 percent of medical professionals had prescribed the drug in the US — far less than other countries.

"Outside the US, hydroxychloroquine was equally used for diagnosed patients with mild to severe symptoms whereas in the US it was most commonly used for high risk diagnosed patients,” the survey found.

The medicine was most widely used in Spain, where 72 percent of physicians said they had prescribed it.

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	GOOF-DUMMIE
Date:	6/18/2020 2:36:41 PM

GOOF, you are seriously embarrassing yourself.  Stop using cnn.com as your world authority, and you’ll look slightly more intelligent.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Another opportunity to be right...thanks!
Date:	6/18/2020 5:07:32 PM (updated 6/18/2020 5:09:45 PM)

Here are the facts.... Death rate of US vs Spain. While you post 72% of Spain doctors prescribed hydroxychloroquine, the death rate is 12% in Spain vs 6% in the US. Maybe, just maybe, that is the reason it is not recommended. But then, you always have the answer.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Unlimited capacity to be shown wrong
Date:	6/18/2020 7:41:11 PM

According to Worldometer, there have been 292,348 confirmed cases in Spain with 27,136 deaths which is exactly equal to 9.3% which is not the true mortality rate but we'll got with it for the sake of argument.  In the U.S. we have 2,261,265 confirmed cases with 120,604 deaths which equals 5.3%.  Of course Spain has socialized medicine so maybe, just maybe that contributes to the death rates although we don't know for sure because, as your graph correctly poiints out use of confirmed cases is a poor measure of mortality.  Just in case you don't understand that...it is the wrong way to do it.  

Please also note the median age in Spain is 45 years old and in the U.S it is 38 years old and we know age is a significant factor in mortality.....you do know that right?  The population density of Spain is 94 people per square kilometer and the U.S. is 36 and you do know population density is a factor, right?  The percentage of the population over age 65 in Spain is almost 20% and it is only 16% in the U.S. 

I could go on but you are maybe getting the idea that the use or lack of use of a single drug is but one of many factors and I suspect a very limited one vis-a-vis mortality.  I suspect given my experience traveling in Europe and needing medical care that socialized medicine is the biggest factor.

But I refer you to this article about the mortality rate in Spain.....funny, they never mention hydroxychloroquine but they do refer to the issues I raised.  Just keep digging deeper Goofy...you seem to enjoy it.

https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-04-07/why-does-spain-have-the-worlds-highest-coronavirus-mortality-rate.html

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Unlimited capacity to be shown wrong
Date:	6/18/2020 10:20:53 PM

You made the BIG point..."The medicine was most widely used in Spain, where 72 percent of physicians said they had prescribed it." The death rate in Spain is double the US. Any intelligent individual would conclude that you are asserting that a high percentage of Spain physicians prescribed the drug so it must work. Yet, twice as many died from the Virus in Spain.

You sound like Trump....beat a dead horse to death.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Give it up GF
Date:	6/19/2020 7:31:24 AM (updated 6/19/2020 7:33:33 AM)

ALL Trumpistas (even the converts who were not Trumpistas in 2016) know, not just believe, but know it is impossible, not just unlikely, but impossible for their leader to ever be mistaken about anything and are even brain washed to continue to deny that he could be wrong even when he is proved to be wrong....it's called TPC or ''Trump personalty Cultism'' and it is destroying this nation!

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Give it up GF
Date:	6/19/2020 8:11:18 AM

Sorry but OBPC or Obama-Biden personality cult destroyed this country over the 8 years before trump MMM MMMM MMM.

Now go back to believing that he is your God, never lied and was scandal free.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Unlimited capacity to be shown wrong
Date:	6/19/2020 2:36:01 PM

No, you took that as the BIG point.  The real point is that it is being used all over the world and Spain was but one example of many.  Just imagine given their demographics how bad it would be if they didn't use it.  

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Unlimited capacity to be shown wrong
Date:	6/19/2020 6:47:44 PM

You made it as a BIG point 72% of docs in Spain used it and the death rate  is 2x the US. Time to move on and prepare for the rally. Do you think Tulsa will see an uptick in Virus patients among those attending the rally? Hate to see.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Unlimited capacity to be shown wrong
Date:	6/21/2020 10:00:08 AM

If the protests all over the country don't cause an uptick then the Tulsa rally which will be organized and peacefull won't be a problem.  Funny, I may have missed it but where was the concern about the peaceful and violent protests and the virus?

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Unlimited capacity to be shown wrong
Date:	6/21/2020 2:19:32 PM

Fortunately, not that many showed up.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	He was only off by 993,800. Not bad math
Date:	6/22/2020 1:04:55 PM (updated 6/22/2020 1:05:49 PM)

For a moron!