Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Why the lawsuit about fraud in Michigan
Date:	11/12/2020 10:03:10 AM

Why the targeting of Dominion voting machines?  Short answer is there is strong evidence that the machines contain an algorithm that changes Trump votes to Biden votes in Republican leaning precincts.  Without going into a lot of detail, when you look at the voting patterns in the largest counties in Michigan there is a statistically impossible straight line correlation of votes being changed the more Republican the precinct is.  Note also that Dominion Voting Systems software is also used in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, Nevada, Minnesota and in Maricopa County, Arizona.

For those of you that are interested in the details of this watch the video below.  It is long and it does contain some math but it is not too complex to understand unless you are math challenged.  In short, Trump did way better in Democrat leaning precincts but way worse in Republican leaning districts and the correlation from county to county is almost exactly the same.  That is simply impossible that it would be the same across multiple counties and the only explanation is an algorithm built into the software.  If this is exposed and the code is examined by forensic software experts it will demonstrate that Trump won Michigan and pretty much every state that uses the Dominion machines by a wide margin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztu5Y5obWPk

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Why the lawsuit about fraud in Michigan
Date:	11/12/2020 10:09:32 AM

I read somewhere that the contract with the Dominion company and those who were going to use the voting software they could not use reverse engineering to obtain the source code. That's pretty standard so that someone cannot steal software but in this particular case some courts may have to intervene and require it to be done. 

I do believe this is the surest Avenue to obtain a major vote count difference 

Also there was a discussion of owners or sponsors of the software and there were some pretty significant Democratic ties

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Why the lawsuit about fraud in Michigan
Date:	11/12/2020 11:12:50 AM

Bear in mind this is only the fraud related to the vote counting machine.  There are also lawsuits alleging tens of thousands of fake ballots were delivered in the middle of the night along with other fraudulent activities like back dating ballots, not confirming ID, adding names to the QVF for non-registered voters and so on.   And this includes affadivits from whistleblowers from inside the polls.  

Also, there is a rumor that one or more Dominion Software whistleblowers have come forward.  Whether this is true or not remains to be seen.  One would hope that someone that works there will tell us why these impossible correlations exist from county to county.

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Why the lawsuit about fraud in Michigan
Date:	11/12/2020 12:59:21 PM

I almost added to my other post that I was hoping someone inside Dominion would speak up

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Why the lawsuit about fraud in Michigan
Date:	11/12/2020 1:50:24 PM

I watched the video. If I were a judge, I would start by ordering a quick hand recount of the counties in the video excluding Wayne to ascertain the validity of the x,y axis pattern.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Why the lawsuit about fraud in Michigan
Date:	11/12/2020 2:25:13 PM

I think that's about right except I am not sure if Michigan is one of the users that doesn't generate printed ballots from the system and doesn't save the electronic ones.  In Georgia you fill out the electronic form and it prints a paper ballot (which I checked by the way and it was accurate).  That is then fed into the scanner with the Dominion software so if there is a similar algorithm in Georgia they should be able to see the difference. But regardless, a forensic software team needs to look at the code in several of these machines from these counties before Dominion can alter them. 

But there is no way this data makes any sense.  One, I find it very hard to believe that obviously Republican precincts have lower Trump votes below the straight line party vote when Democrat precincts it is exact the opposite.  Worst case it should be comparable or slightly above or below.  Two, the similarity in the trend lines between counties is impossible to attribute to anything other than human intervention.  Third, the fact that a similar trend does not happen in heavily Democrat counties and in fact Trump did much better above the party line vote there, unlike other counties tells you it is not a voter trend but is a computer algorithm.

Will also be interesting to see if there are in fact whistleblower(s) from Dominion.  If I were them I would hire armed guards and submit an affidavit to a lawyer that they are not suicidal and that if anythg happens to them it is a result of foul play.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Maricopa County GOP Chair forced to resign
Date:	11/12/2020 2:30:31 PM

Because they never validated the Dominion machines.  Just also watched a video of a computer science professor from UMich hack a similar voting machine to change votes.  Way to make it happen?  Send an email to the person that accesses the voting system to set up the ballots with a virus that gets into the machines.

Name:	Shortbus -	Reply
Subject:	Another bitch and moan
Date:	11/12/2020 2:48:17 PM

If da gubment can put up 17 cameras at the college & bypass intersection to keep tabs on us, why can't they put 17 cameras where the

ballots are counted to keep tabs on them??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Another bitch and moan
Date:	11/12/2020 3:18:42 PM

Because it would prevent voter fraud and they would lose more elections.  It's as simple as that.  It's why they want unfettered immigration (legal and illegal).  It is why they oppose voter ID laws.  It is why they refuse to allow poll watchers to do their jobs.  It is why the do almost everything....so they can be in power to enrich themselves and their fellow travelers and punish their opponents.  

Name:	Shortbus -	Reply
Subject:	Prop Martini
Date:	11/12/2020 3:32:57 PM

Its about time we get this stuff done.  Let's start voting special props as started by a web page like sickandtiredalready.org.

Lets put cameras in the vote counting gallows as prop Martini.  All for one and one for all???????

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Another bitch and moan
Date:	11/12/2020 3:41:57 PM

The legislature controls the voting regulations not the county and the Republicans control the legislatures in GA, AZ, NC, MI,and PA. Why haven't the Republican legislatures made the changes you and Shorty suggest? Could it be they support election fraud?

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Another bitch and moan
Date:	11/12/2020 4:07:20 PM (updated 11/12/2020 4:13:08 PM)

Maybe because they naively believe that given the importance of elections normal, sane people would not cheat.  More like stupidly believe it. But as we are learning with this election the local precincts cannot be trusted anymore.  They are banana republics that stuff the ballot boxes...metaphorically speaking anyway.  Besides, in most states the SOS is in charge of the elections.  That's where the changes should start.

But as we have seen in PA with the recent slap down, it seems that local and even state election officials do pretty much whatever they want.  No value in passing more laws if the local precincts are willing to violate current laws.  It's already illegal in every state to commit voter fraud.  My guess is if you put in camera's they would tape them over just like they did in Michigan when they covered the windows so observers could not see them cheating.  What is needed is arrests, convictions and sentencing so people will think twice about committing vote fraud.

Name:	Shortbus -	Reply
Subject:	Another bitch and moan
Date:	11/12/2020 4:31:15 PM

Martini, what say you?  Let's start the webpage. sickandtiredalready.org not found.