Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Fox News goes in the tank
Date:	11/18/2020 8:11:09 AM

This is what happens when you turn a successful business with a desirable product over to the winner of the lucky sperm club.  Fox News is losing viewers by the hundreds of thousands in every time slot except Hannity and Tucker.  The stupid sons never understood the product and were more concerned with keeping their wives happy.  Meanwhile other outlets like OAN and NewsMax TV are picking up viewers by the hundreds of thousands.  

They even lost the morning slot to the crowd of Trump haters at pmsnBS....not because their numbers went up, but because the Fox show dropped like a rock.  As for me, I don't watch cable or network news shows.  But I have taken FoxNews off my news feed.  No longer go there because they are for some very strange and damaging reason trying to be cnnLITE.  If I wanted to have my IQ cut in half I would watch cnnBS or any of the others.  For some strange and completely illogical reason, and this is the most charitable way to look at it, someone there thought they would get more viewers by going left.  More likely they don't care and just want to get the approval of their liberal friends and want to get invited to all the best parties at Martha's Vineyard or the upper east side.

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Fox News goes in the tank
Date:	11/18/2020 8:15:15 AM

You are spot on.  I have never liked Hannity, arrogant and repetitive, so it is just Tucker for me. 

Glad we have some football

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Fox News goes in the tank
Date:	11/18/2020 11:34:10 AM

I have concluded that Martini is now getting his news from Shortyyyy's favorite...Alex Jones.

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Fox News goes in the tank
Date:	11/18/2020 11:36:46 AM

You, my friend, would do well to figure where he gets his "news". He identifies and does not rely on "spin"

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	You would be wrong....again...and again...and....
Date:	11/18/2020 12:13:26 PM

Which is nothing new.....in fact you seem to relish in it.  Why is that?  You seem to have a pathological need to be wrong.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Tell Us.......
Date:	11/18/2020 12:46:50 PM

As a pious individualh, how could you overlook all the Trump lies over the past 4 years and never post anything that resembled a criticism about lying?

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Tell Us.......
Date:	11/18/2020 1:07:49 PM

As I have stated on numerous occasions that you refuse to understand, all politicians lie.  It seems to be part and parcel of the political class.  What I do is use my powers of discernment to separate lies that matter and those that do not.  For example, lies that mattered were if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.  Everyone will save $2,500 on their health insurance.  Trump colluded with the Russians to steal the election from Hillary.  The Steele Dossier was true and not Hillary campaign disinformation to distract from her email server.  Denmark and Sweden are socialist countries.  Trump is Hitler.   Trump is a dictator.  Trump supporters are baskets of deplorables, chumps and racists.  And the biggest one of all.....every politician that says one thing in a campaign and does something different when they get elected.

Trump on the things that matter has been the most honest President in my lifetime.  He said what he would do if elected and he did it.  That is why the left hates him.  That is why you hate him.  That is why the deep state hates him.  That is why the media and academia hate him.  And that is why he got 73M votes in the last election, why he had a 53% approval rating, why he garnered more of the black and Hispanic vote than in 2016.  His lies belie a character defect common to most, if not all politicians.  But on the issues that matters he not only tells the truth but does what he promises.

And what did we get for that?  The greatest economy in my lifetime.  Lowest black and Hispanic unemployment since its been recorded.  No new wars.  Normalization of relations between Israel and other Arab countries.  Operation Warp Speed giving us a vaccine in record time.  A reduction in useless and damaging regulations.  Lower taxes for all Americans that actually pay taxes.  Building hundreds of miles of the wall.  Three originalists appointed to SCOTUS and dozens to the lower courts.  I could on and on. 

And I get that you don't view many, if any of those, as accomplishments.  To me that's sad and unlike what the left wing fascists say about us it doesn't make you evil, in my view it just makes you wrong. But we can in good faith disagree on political issues and still get along, which you and I generally do despite the barbs and banter.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	Tell Us.......
Date:	11/18/2020 1:45:47 PM

In defense of Fish, it is hard to acknowledge Trump's accomplishments as listed when his news sources CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS don't mention them.  As I said before, we are an alternate universe to Fish and Archie.  For crying out loud, one of the most important Senate hearings on censorship and big tech yesterday were not even mentioned in any of the above newscasts.  Only those with an inquiring mind will find the facts.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Tell Us.......
Date:	11/18/2020 1:54:02 PM

He lost because of his rhetoic that appeals to his base and his lack of decency whether true or preceived. I split my ballot...Biden and my Republican congressman. I am registered as an Independent.

I don't consider myself the enemy mearly an educated thinker who disagrees with the Nazi Right. Most of my friends suppported Trump while all of my close relatives supported Biden.

As for you, you are my mortal enemy but if we lived closer I would look forward to having coffee( I don't drink) with you to chat about everything except politics. Because we are so divided as a nation, my friends and I have agreed no politics. Sadly, it can really destroy a relationship. This site is an example how some become enemies with strangers that in the old days never existed. You only had the opportunity to discuss poltics with those you met in person or a letter to the editor. I am quite certain the language that is exchanged online would never work in person.

Now back to CNN......

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Tell Us.......
Date:	11/18/2020 2:14:59 PM

Funny - you are registered as independent

https://www.sos.alabama.gov/sites/default/files/voter-pdfs/nvra-2.pdf

I did not think I remembered seeing any place on the form to put in a preference when I registered to vote in Alabama, and went to check the latest form to be sure that they can care less what party you claim you are for.

Only place it matters is during a closed primary and you have to pick a ballot - and I am sure you did not pick the independent ballot when you voted for Biden in the primaries.

You are so full of chit.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Tell Us.......
Date:	11/18/2020 2:46:30 PM

It's a funny thing but I have quite a few left leaning friends and we can have a discussion of politics.  But I can see why you can't when you use a term like Nazi Right.  It's that kind of rhetoric that you decry with Trump but don't have the self awareness to see that you are no better.  I am OK with right wing nut or other derogatory terms to describe a political view just like me calling leftists socialists and fascists.  But using the term Nazi has much different connotation and does a disservice to the millions of Jews, Catholic priests and others exterminated by the Nazis.  But it seems to be how far gone the left is these days that they use this term all the time to describe the President (a great friend of Israel, has a Jewish daughter, son-in-law and grandchildren) and those of us that support him. Doesn't exactly help anymore than calling us racists.

Physician, heal thyself.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Offensive
Date:	11/18/2020 7:31:56 PM

I find the casual way many people on the left say things like "Nazi" or that Trump is like Hitler.  I'm not a WWII scholar by any means, but I have done extensive reading about Nazi and Hitler - mostly because it blows my mind how an entire country could be brainwashed to follow a maniac or make it deadly to say that you didn't follow it.  It makes me think that people have not done any research on what Nazi Germany was really like.  Some young Milleniels thought this up, because they are too delicate to be taught the hard lessons that history offers - it is upsetting to them, but that doesn't stop them from tossing it out and gullible minds grab it and run with it.  

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	MM and his fellow Trumpistas
Date:	11/18/2020 10:30:55 PM (updated 11/18/2020 11:00:49 PM)

just can't stand it when anybody starts to tell the truth about their cult leader rather than to continue kissing his behind.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Offensive
Date:	11/18/2020 10:50:46 PM

Some find this equally as offensive..." To me that's sad and unlike what the left wing fascists say about us it doesn't make you evil, in my view it just makes you wrong."

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	And Trump isn't ''Offensive''?
Date:	11/18/2020 10:50:49 PM (updated 11/18/2020 10:58:14 PM)

If Hound has done reading on the rise of Hitler she must realize his rise to power and his consolidation of power was, at least from the standpoint of ''politics'' completely legal after the beer hall putch failed and that his rise was a 9 year journey and his consolidation of power was another 3 years after he became Chancellor.  Whether she finds it offensive or not, if she looked objectively at what happened in Germany between 1924 and 1933 she would see at least a few scary parallells with what was happening in the USA under Trump.  For the moment he has been dealt a setback, but Hitler also appeared to have been put out to pasture several times before making a come back to acheived success.

OK, don't get on your ''holier than thou'' high horse MM and CRD, etc...I am not saying Trump is a Hitler want-to-be (Hitler was mentally much sharper and politically more astute than Trump and, thankfully, most of the American people are not as malliable as the depression era, post war Germans) but an objective comparison of some each man's cult like qualities and political ''divide and conquer'' techniques cannot fail to see similarities that should give anybody patriotic American pause.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Offensive
Date:	11/19/2020 8:51:59 AM

If they find fascist as offensive as calling someone a Nazi they are historically ignorant, intellectually dishonest and invincibly ignorant.  I cannot think of one fascist that eliminated 7 million people because they were Jews or Christians.....although clearly the Nazi's were pikers when compared to Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.

Why can't you just admit that the calling of Trump and his supporters Nazis is over the top rhetoric and is fueling the divide in this country?  Like I said, your using that language clearly explains why none of your family and friends with different viewpoints want to discuss politics with you.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	MM and his fellow Trumpistas
Date:	11/19/2020 10:34:23 AM

So says the person with a 12 year lip lock on Obama's corrupt fanny.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	And Trump isn't ''Offensive''?
Date:	11/19/2020 10:38:10 AM

So glad that you brought this up Archie, now I can finally utilize some of my undergrad academics.   Let's just see where the scary parallels actually lie.

I reference some of my dusty notebooks.....

You are correct that Hitlers rise was indeed a journey.  Upon gaining a bare majority (in coalition with another party), after the fourth of many elections, his new government began repressing the opposition parties, beginning with the most left (the communists) and proceeding inward (e.g., the socialists).

This is actually how Nazism came to power in Germany: through repression of the opposition. By repressing the opposition, Hitler turned a bare majority in coalition with another party, into an absolute majority for his party (turning his coalition partner into a lap dog), and then gained absolute power for himself personnally.

Now, the question to be asked by those of intellect is the following: who is being repressed today? De-platformed by Big Tech,  Conservatives.  Censored? Conservatives  Fired? Conservatives.  Blacklisted? Conservatives. Called Uncle Toms?  Blacks who are happy to leave the Democratic plantation.  

Today, the “fringe” of the Democratic Party talks openly of going after Trump conservatives.  That is fact.   Only, this “fringe” includes high-ranking public officials, and includes many members of the elite media and academia.  This is what is frightening.  

Hitler blamed everything on the Jews.  Trump has followed the constitution while the Dem operatives have been sent to burn, kill, threaten, loot and destroy in our streets with impugnity.

I think in our age, we all know who actually act more like the Nazi party  if history is accurately portrayed.  If this was posted on Twitter or FB, I feel certain that I would be blocked and censored.  Sound familiar Archie?

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Steven Miller and Sebastian Gorka
Date:	11/19/2020 2:16:56 PM (updated 11/19/2020 2:19:36 PM)

I’m sure you recognize those names.  Do they turn you on CRD the way they turn Trump on?  Hitler would have loved them and they would have worshipped Hitler had they been around in Munich in 1930!

Are you actually so naive that you think Trump did not and continues to try to repress his opposition?

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	Steven Miller and Sebastian Gorka
Date:	11/19/2020 2:23:22 PM (updated 11/19/2020 2:23:42 PM)

Stephen Miller is Jewish.......smh

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Steven Miller and Sebastian Gorka
Date:	11/19/2020 2:48:41 PM

Wonder if Antifatech said the same about Eric Holder being "wingman" of Oblamer.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	So what
Date:	11/19/2020 9:24:02 PM (updated 11/19/2020 9:29:30 PM)

That doesn't mean he is not a Fascist and white supremacist!  I guess you think he is a noble example of decent humanity?

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	So what
Date:	11/20/2020 7:42:32 AM

Doubt that, as you stated, that he would have worshiped Hitler in the 1930's.  Still smh.  Stay on subject Archie, let the meds kick in.