Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Martini Must Be Happy
Date:	12/23/2020 3:07:32 PM

MM must be happy to see his hero hold up the Covid bill inorder to increase the debt by increasing payments to $2,000. Looks like Trump, Nancy, and Chuckie are in bed together on this one.

Remember you memorable post...

I hope small business people tell the employees they lay off in the next two weeks that they could no longer wait on the PPP funds that were delayed by Senate Democrats.  One more despicable and cold hearted act on the part of Democrats.  Wait until v4.0 to talk about these other things and get or keep people working you heartless bastards!

I guess you can now replace the Dems with the name Trump......

 One more despicable and cold hearted act on the part of Trump.  Wait until v4.0 to talk about these other things and get or keep people working you heartless bastard! LOL

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Martini Must Be Happy
Date:	12/26/2020 3:07:00 PM

Goofy, I live rent free in your mind.  Yeah, Trump is heartless because he objects to all the pork and the paltry $600 going to Americans.  I predict your last words will be something about Trump.  TDS is real and you have it bad.  Ya see Goofy, here is the difference.  Queen Nan and Chucky prevented helping Americans to hurt Trump's reelection chances.  Trump is delaying the bill trying to help Americans.  That you don't see the difference is yet another example of your mental illness.

My preferred outcome is that the dictator Governors will stop intentionally destroying the economy in the hopes they will get out of their unfunded libailities and will simply allow America to get back to work.  Absent that sanity, it appears we have to saddle our children and grandchildren with debt and inevitable tax increases.  But then I remind myself that they are voting for these idiots so they are getting what they ask for.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Martini Must Be Happy
Date:	12/27/2020 1:26:03 PM

To be specific...you are rent free on a park bench. Your famous words I constantly hear..."Where are my food stamps?"

Trump was silent while Mnuchin was negotiating a package and then decided to throw it in the trash. He abdicsted his presidency on Nov 4 and has been MIA. You posted all the fraud which was nothing more than fake posts. You want to blame everone else for Trump's failures. He should have told Mnuchin he wanted $2,000.

Government welfare according to the right is wrong yet I don't know any Conservative businessmen who turned down the biggest Corporate welfare payments in the form of PPP. The Right's motto is "Welfare sucks except when I am on the receiving end". 

What do you call a Conservative who takes PPP money? A hypocrit.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	You are so very wrong
Date:	12/27/2020 5:20:26 PM (updated 12/27/2020 5:26:21 PM)

Me and my businesses have paid tens millions of dollars to the Feds over the last 22 years.  And every penny a conservative got from a PPP loan went to their employees in the form of payroll and vendors.  Every stinking penny goes to others.  They don't keep a plug nickel, unlike the leeches of society.  And they are the ones that pay for it because they actually pay taxes....unlike the leeches.

That's what we do, create jobs and income for others unlike the parasites that just take, take, take and do nothing to create jobs or a product or service someone wants.  So Trump is trying to get more cash in the hands of Americans and less pork to foreign countries and you are so insane with TDS that you can't even see that. 

Get help Goofy.  You just keep doubling down on stupidity and someone needs to intervene and tell you that you have totally lost your mind.  As evidence you have imagined me asking my food stamps.....I have never taken, nor would I ever take food stamps.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	You are so very wrong
Date:	12/29/2020 2:36:20 PM (updated 12/29/2020 2:39:23 PM)

I was not aware that you accepted PPP money. I was speaking of Conservatives in general.

"Me and my businesses have paid tens millions of dollars to the Feds over the last 22 years." Now you pay tens of millions and Trump paid $750....you need a new accountant. Looks like yours is a Leftist and just wants to feed the government at your expense.

So now, your employees are leeches taking PPP money you doled out. No different than someone getting food stamps to eat and Title 8 to help pay the rent.

Your logic sounds like a welfare recipient justifying a payment...  all the taxes that were paid were just a down payment for a PPP welfare payment.

I am really pissed...I got $0 from the 1st stimulus and will get $0 from thus one but I have been paying taxes for more years than you. I. too, am entitled to some of that welfare called stimulus money.

So much for the Right's lies about reducing spending. It's all about who gets the money.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	You are once again so very wrong
Date:	12/29/2020 3:07:03 PM

Utter nonsense.  My employees worked hard during a shutdown of the economy by an out of control government relying on idiots lke Fauci.  The work hard, pay their taxes, obey the laws and I am happy to have kept them employed during that time.  So no Goofy, they are not even remotely the leeches that I am referring to. Those leeches choose not to work, do not pay taxes and expect someone else to pay for their lifestyle by having the government take money from the productive at the point of a gun.  

As for your crack about taxes, it too is completely wrong and belies your total ignorance.  Even if I didn't pay a dime in income taxes due to my use of legitimate deductions and write offs (which is not the case any more than it is for Trump), the millions per year in wages I pay to my employees (including my own) are subject to state and federal income taxes and employment taxes which when combined can be upwards of 50%.  I know you've never created a business or jobs in your entire life which is why you are totally ignorant of the real world.  Sad that I have to explain this to you but it puts you in the majority of Americans that are literally clueless.

And lest you think I am overstating the tax burden I will use GA as an example.  Most of my employees are highly compensated and are probably in the upper tax brackets.  So they pay 37% in federal taxes.  Then they pay 5.75% in state income taxes and employment wages paid by the company and the employee come up to 15.3%.  I'll do the math for you because I know how hard it is.  That comes up to 58.05%, lower for employees in lower tax brackets obviously.  So my annual wages are around $7M per year so in a typical year we pay between $3M and $4M in taxes through our employees.  And that doesn't include the income taxes paid on whatever is left over at the end of the year.  So yes, my company over the last 22 years has paid tens of millions in taxes and it has nothing to do with the net income of the business that is likewise taxed to death at marginal rates.

Keep doubling down on ignrance and stupidity Goofy.....I expect nothing less.  You really must enjoy being wrong.  You do it so well and then double and triple down.  Seek help.  You need it.