Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Democrats continue to stoke the violence
Date:	1/8/2021 8:59:43 AM

Between Dementia Joe and the Ho making this a racial injustice issue instead of calling for calm and healing to the insane Democrats in Congress calling for the impeachment of a President who will be in office for another two weeks, they are throwing gasoline on the fire.  And we continue to see more and more proof that Antifa was there (again to what extent is still uncertain). 

As for the calls to impeach I have a long list of mayors and Governors that marched in protests that turned violent with nary a peep about them being to blame or should be impeached.  I am telling you folks, the left has been inciting a civil war for four years and they are doubling down.  The stage is being set and they don't seem to care.  Only when Democrat politicians have the courage to push back against the radical left in this country will we return to a semblance of sanity.  As long as they excuse the violence on the left and allow the media to lie this is only going to get worse.

Trump has conceded.  He has committed to an orderly transition.  He has condemned the violence.  He has done the right thing.....Democrats have done the opposite and I am beginning to think they want a civil war.  They literally have no idea the whirlwind they are creating and they will regret it unless enough of them have courage to stand up and do the right thing.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Democrats continue to stoke the violence
Date:	1/8/2021 9:30:41 AM

I do not expect it to get better, tensions have been on the downslide since Obama - its going to get worse under Harris/Xiden.  I am not surprised by anything anymore. 

They are currently calling for his removal by hook, crook etc - once out they will call for him and everyone around him to be jailed, expect the worst and be surprised if it does not happen.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Democrats continue to stoke the violence
Date:	1/8/2021 9:42:04 AM

And sadly I have zero confidence that even one, let alone more, Democrat will step up and do the right thing.  I think the modern Democrat party has jumped the shark and will indeed make things worse in the coming years.  Expect widespread censorship of conservatives.  Expect calls for gun confiscation.  Expect calls for retribution against all conservatives, calls for violence against them and purges.  They want a civil war because they actually think they can win it. They are wrong.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Democrats continue to stoke the violence
Date:	1/8/2021 10:26:55 AM

Come on, MM, he encouraged his fringe supporters to intimidate the Congress with a fiery rhetroic, and then threw them under the bus saying what they did was wrong.  This is a man with no conscience at all.  And the only reason he's now talking about conceding and a smooth transition is because there was a lot of serious talk about removing him from his office and possibly facing charges of treason.  I'm surprised that you continue to blame the Democrats and look at Trump with rose colored glasses.  

I doubt conservatives like myself are going to be happy with the new Administration, especially now that the Senate will be Democratic led too, but Trump lost Georgia for us.  His intimidation techniques and his veiled threats to the election officials turned the stomach of anyone with any shread of ethics and integrity.  

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Democrats continue to stoke the violence
Date:	1/8/2021 12:30:12 PM (updated 1/8/2021 12:40:00 PM)

C'mon Hound.  Quote for me one thing in his speech where he suggested they storm the capital and cause the mayhem that happened.  There is not one...period.  And he has held hundreds of these events over the years with zero violence unless the Antifa types show up and start trouble.  Like all protests he invited them to march TO the capital, not what happened.  Democrats are reaping what they have sown and I have been warning about this for years.  And they are doubling down and trying to start a full blown civil war.  If there's blame to be cast it should start there.

And when he heard about the violence he condemned it and asked for them to leave peacefully.  The only ones responsible for the violence are the individuals themselves and I am still not convinced that Antifa wasn't present and got the whole thing going.  Regardless, the people that were involved need to be arrested and punished.....all of them. 

But if that's your standard then Nancy Pelosi, Kamala Harris, AOC and dozens of other Democrats as well as the media are culpable for the Antifa/BLM violence and Harris should be impeached along with Trump.  And I can prove she promoted the violence and supported bailing out rioters and looters.    Don't try the leftist double standard with me on this.  Contrast that with Dementia Joe and his pathetic VP that only stoke more violence and division with their racially charged statements.  We have been watching hundreds of riots by Antifa and BLM members, we have seen them get away with it, we have seen Soros bought and paid for AGs and DAs let them out, we have seen celebrities and Democrat politicians bail them out so they can return to violence, we have seen the media lie and justify the violence.

So, Trump isn't remotely responsible for this unless you can prove to me that he told them to do what they did.  I will wait.  And I defy you to show me one post here on this forum where you blamed the Democrat politicians for the violence, for the storming of the Hart Building during the Kavanaugh hearings.  I will wait for that as well.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Here is a Harris quote promoting violence
Date:	1/8/2021 12:43:21 PM

Kamala Harris: They’re not gonna stop. They’re not gonna stop. This is a movement. Everyone beware! They’re not gonna let up and they should not let up.

And this after rioting, looting and the killing of innocent people.  And if you doubt me on her promoting the bailing out of Antifa and BLM rioters I will be happy to prove that to you as well.  Until Harris and the others are held accountable, impeached or whatever you can forget me or any sane person jumping on your bandwagon.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Here is a Harris quote promoting violence
Date:	1/8/2021 12:48:45 PM

  http://www.lakesonline.com/Forum/show.asp?id=211291&fid=D2493503-C07E-408B-A0FF-3F590C1FBF78&SiteID=AL004

Name:   Talullahhound  -  Subject:   Coming to a window near you Date:   6/1/2020 4:35:09 PM

If I thought that tearing down statues and breaking windows would bring social justice to this country, I would be out there with them.  But its not about that and that will not solve anything.  These people don't give a damn about George Floyd or social injustice.  And because of people like them, there won't be social justice.  

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Here is a Harris quote promoting violence
Date:	1/8/2021 1:03:02 PM

But thats all different.

Cuomo: "Who says protests have to be peaceful?"

Rep Aynna Pressley: "There needs to be unrest in the streets".

Senator Kamala Harris: "Protestors should not let up."

Senator Kamala Harris: "But they're not gonna stop. They're not gonna stop. This is a movement, I'm telling you. They're not gonna stop. And everyone beware, because they're not gonna stop before election day in November, and they're not gonna stop after election day."

Rep. Maxine Waters: And I want to tell you, for these members of his Cabinet who remain and try to defend him, they're not going to be able to go to a restaurant, to be able to stop at a gas station, to be able to shop at a department store."

Speaker Nancy Pelosi: "I just don't know why there aren't uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be."

Speaker Nancy Pelosi: "I plan to pull him out of there by his hair, his little hands, and his feet."

Rashida Thalib: "Impeach the ....

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Here is a Harris quote promoting violence
Date:	1/8/2021 2:16:28 PM

This is exactly what is going to start a civil war.  The double standard is outrageous to me and is going to incite other people to do stupid things like they did in DC.  They are sick of seeing leftists riot, loot and burn and get encouraged to do so by Democrats and the media.  They have brought this on the country and now that it's coming back to bite them they will have to eat their own words.  Just like Hound has to eat her own words about violence and destruction of public property.  I am sure she will explain to us how tearing down a statue is different.....my response would be why stop there?  If that's OK then so is any destruction if you feel aggrieved.  She has the same attitude as the others and now all of the sudden their own tactics are unacceptable because they don't like the cause?  Hypocrites....every damn one of them.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Here is a Harris quote promoting violence
Date:	1/8/2021 2:46:37 PM

but its different this time. 

BS.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Here is a Harris quote promoting violence
Date:	1/8/2021 2:49:45 PM

Not a fan of Harris, or Biden for that matter.   I'm not going to dig up quotes to refute your arguments about Trump.  You just keep wearing those rose colored glasses.  I suggest you go on Parler if you are not there and see some of the other wonderful ideas his supporters are bandying about.  Sorry, I'm done with Trump and his fringe.  

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	LOLLLLLLLLLLL MM
Date:	1/8/2021 3:34:13 PM (updated 1/8/2021 3:38:04 PM)

Mo Brooks said kick ass. Rudy said trial by combat. Yesterday, Trump said to prosecute those who broke the law to the fullest extent. Too bad, he didn't encourage them to be peaceful BEFORE they began the march. He threw his supprorters under the bus as those caught will be in prison next to BLM supporters while trump will be golfing in Florida.

"In a speech Wednesday, Trump ginned up the crowd of his supporters gathered on the National Mall, telling them "we're going to walk down to the Capitol" and that "you'll never take back our country with weakness, you have to show strength.""

Trump was going to walk with them but got into his limo and went in the other direction. Yes, blame Anticfa and Harris and everyone else as you try and squirm out of this one.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	You completely misunderstand
Date:	1/8/2021 3:44:28 PM (updated 1/8/2021 4:24:04 PM)

Hound, you don't get it.  For me this isn't about Trump.  Trump is Trump, he's his own worst enemy.  He's history and our next President is a guy suffering from onset dementia being backed up by a vacuous gold digger who isn't qualified for anything. 

This is about what is happening to our country.  This is about an election that appears to have been filled with massive fraud that may or may not have changed the outcome of the election and could set the stage for a civil war if half the country thinks we no longer have free and fair elections because there will never be a thorough, honest, fair and unbiased investigation of it.  This is about a media that has become the enemy of the people because they have chosen sides and will say and do anything to promote their ideology and support Democrats.  This is about a monumental double standard about the responsibility for civil unrest that should be appalling to anyone with a modicum of common sense.  This is about a modern Democrat party that has lost its collective mind and is filled with hatred for this country and wants to purge it of anyone that disagrees with them.  This is about Big Tech that likewise has chosen sides and has likewise become the enemy of the people by suppressing viewpoints that don't comport with theirs and have absurd legal protections from any ramifications of their one-sided censorship of ideas.

You are the one obsessed with Trump and wearing the rose colored glasses.....scratch that, your glasses are opaque bordering on impermeable to light.  I get Goofy and his TDS and Trump obsession.  I don't get that you have become so obsessed with Trump that you can't see the forest for the leaves on the tree.  You misunderstand me and tens of millions of conservatives about what the real issues are for us and it sure as he!! isn't Donald Trump.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	LOLLLLLLLLLLL Goofy
Date:	1/8/2021 3:47:31 PM (updated 1/8/2021 3:50:47 PM)

Such weak sauce it's almost laughable.  I repeat, where did he tell them to storm the capital?  Where did he tell them that rioting and looting were an acceptable response to their anger and fear like we've seen with Democrats and the media?  When did he say in response to the rioting and looting, "They’re not gonna stop. They’re not gonna stop. This is a movement. Everyone beware! They’re not gonna let up and they should not let up."?  Nowhere.....he told them to stop and go home peacefully!!!

If that is all you have then it pales in comparison to what Democrats have done to perpetuate and foment violence and until you call on them to be impeached and resign you're nothing but a hypocritical partisan hack suffering from TDS.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	LOLLLLLLLLLLL Goofy
Date:	1/8/2021 3:51:29 PM

Why didn't he refute Brook and Rudy? The bottom line dude is his supporters are going to prison as he encoursged their prosecution.  Now justify that.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	LOLLLLLLLLLLL Goofy
Date:	1/8/2021 4:18:49 PM (updated 1/8/2021 5:12:41 PM)

I have no idea what you are talking about.  I didn't realize Trump changed his name....oh wait, he didn't and you can't provide anything he said that comes even close to the promotion of violence on the left.  Of course he stated they should be prosecuted if they broke the law.  Justify that?!?!?  What a stupid statement.....I don't need to justify anyone that agrees with the rule of law.  You need to justify Democrats that you support doing the exact opposite while you hypocritically criticize Trump.  You need to keep on task.  Take your meds and get back to me.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Thanks again for the flag....keep em coming!!!!
Date:	1/11/2021 9:00:46 AM

It's how I know I am winning.  And as Goofy said above, flags are for small minds that can't handle the truth.  And my flagger has a small mind to go along with the small hands to go along with the small.......