Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	cnnBS busted as propaganda
Date:	4/14/2021 9:01:36 AM

Why these idiots are so easily duped by Project Veritas is beyond me but they do it every time.  So we now have confirmation of what we already knew.....cnnBS is not a news organization.  It is a political action firm masquerading as news....and not very well I might add.  Now that they are out of the airports I have to wonder if anyone but die hard leftists will watch their garbage.  It's bad enough to be slanted to the left and feign objectivity, but cnnBS has taken this to a whole new level.  Think Pravda for the Democrat Party.  Think of Cuomo, Stelter, et al as modern day Baghdad Bob's willingly telling blatantly obvious lies to promote their left wing progressive agenda. 

I know we have seen the malignant effects of TDS here on the Forum but it's quite enlightening and probably comforting to our left wing posters to know that TDS has caused a once-respected news organization to become whores to the Democrat party.  Tsk, tsk.....no wonder they are so fixated on FoxNews and talk radio.  Have to destroy anyone that blows up their false narratives and refutes their propaganda.

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	cnnBS busted as propaganda
Date:	4/14/2021 9:12:07 AM

They are so obvious.  Tucker gets tickled when they criticize something he has said.  He can put them in their bias place as well as anyone.  

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	cnnBS busted as propaganda
Date:	4/14/2021 11:19:14 AM (updated 4/14/2021 11:27:18 AM)

Wow!!! That's just terrible. CNN and MSNBC for the Left and FOX for the Right. All 3  the same  just different viewpoints.  Took you a long time to figure that out. All that matters is Trump lost.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	cnnBS busted as propaganda
Date:	4/14/2021 1:04:29 PM

You forgot aBS, cBS, nBS, WaPo, NYT, LA Times, AJC and on and on and on...... As I have stated often, we'll gladly give you FoxNews in exchange for all the Democrat propaganda outlets masquerading as news.

But you prove my point, you don't care about propaganda if it gets rid of Trump.  That is mental illness defined.....it's one thing to have legitimate issues raised by a free and fair press.  It's quite another for them to spew propaganda about one candidate while providing vast amounts of shade for another to cover up dementia, corruption and incompetence.  That is not news, that is activism and in my opinion should have to be disclosed as an in kind campaign contribution.  But for leftists, any means justifies the end.  Like I said, a mental illness....or maybe evil.....probably both.

That you are seemingly proud that they needed propaganda to win is pretty shameless...but not surprising.

Name:	rude evin -	Reply
Subject:	cnnBS busted as propaganda
Date:	4/14/2021 1:22:12 PM

“All that matters is that Trump lost”.........there is your nugget of truth that probably slipped out inadvertently from a dem who cares not about the means to an end......just win at all costs. Doesn’t care about FISA court abuse, FBI, CIA, other Intelligence Agencies politicization or the damning effects on our Constitutional Republic........just get that power back so we can have our “democracy “.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	cnnBS busted as propaganda
Date:	4/14/2021 1:29:02 PM

The only reason they are so cavalier about this assault on our Republic and desire for us to be a democracy is because they think they have the votes on their side.  A Republic is far better at ensuring that the majority doesn't run over the minority.  Want a good example of how that works?  Look what Democrats did post Civil War with Jim Crow laws.  The majority supported them even though they were evil laws.  But again, when all you care about is winning, power and control over our lives any means is fine and dandy.  If those same means are used against them I can assure you they will find their voice.  But as the famous pastor said prior to WW2, by the time they came for me there was no one to object.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	cnnBS busted as propaganda
Date:	4/14/2021 2:53:51 PM (updated 4/14/2021 2:58:00 PM)

Are you suggesting that Moscow Mitch didn't do his best to run over the Left? Are you suggesting that Hannity, Carlson, and Rush didn't push for Trump and denigrate Biden. It worked both ways and this time the Left won. 2022 will, in all probabilty, see the House go Republican  with more far right candidates. 

Your support for Trump is based on such low standards that you accept all his 30,000 lies, cheating on Melania, screwing students at his university, etc. You enjoy and support his bullying and macho attitude which led to the breach of the Capitol. If it were up to Trump, the Republic would have fallen when his supporters tried to Hang Mike Pence and annointed King Trump.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	The most disturbing thing is GF
Date:	4/14/2021 3:00:19 PM

this bunch would love it!

Name:	rude evin -	Reply
Subject:	cnnBS busted as propaganda
Date:	4/14/2021 4:27:13 PM

Your passive aggressive schtick is impressive.....but not persuasive ......

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	cnnBS busted as propaganda
Date:	4/14/2021 5:03:28 PM

This has nothing to do with lies...otherwise no politician would be elected or reelected.  I am suggesting that one of the reasons Trump lost the election was that gullible viewers actually believed the propaganda that was spewed by the various BS outlets like cnnBS, aBS, etc. and that those entities reach vastly more viewers each day than little old FoxNews.  In this case, one of them was actually videotaped speaking the truth.....the rest have not been recorded admitting to what is blatantly obvious to all but the most mentally ill TDS sufferers like you.

And they have to lie and spew propaganda because they don't trust that the American people will vote the way they want them to vote if they actually knew the truth about the many successes of the Trump administration and the long history of the failures of progressive ideas and policies, not to mention the hundreds of millions that died under socialism/communism.  So they have to lie to get people to vote the way they do.  Otherwise, if Trump were really that bad all they needed to do was tell the truth.....but no, they had to use propaganda to mislead their viewers....and he admitted as much.  That is a random act of honesty that could be repeated in pretty much 90% of newsrooms in America, if you could get them to admit it.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Use Some Logic
Date:	4/14/2021 5:59:39 PM

Viewers of Cnn and MSNBC did not need "propaganda" to support Biden. Thosae who listed to CNN and MS were already Biden supporters. Just as Trump supporters tuned into FOX. Hannity was like a Goebbels for Trump. The big problem for Trump was the number of Republicans including Conway's husband who supported Biden and encouraged other Patriotic Republicans to vote against Trump.

CNN "propaganda" did not cause the defeat of Trump. Trump caused his own defeat.

Hey RUDE>>>thanks for your comment. 

Name:	rude evin -	Reply
Subject:	cnnBS busted as propaganda
Date:	4/14/2021 10:55:13 PM

It is sad to see how biased and downright censoring the MSM have become........I got an up close look at a truly government media more than 20 years ago when I lived and worked in a small country that provided all budget resources for the media. As you can expect the media was all in for the government of the day........ but, when the government changed from Liberal to Conservative or vise versa the media players got swept out and were replaced with friendly forces.

Sad to say the MSM in the USA not only have ditched any pretense of being fair and balanced but have made it abundantly clear they are all in for the Dems only. 

Wonder if this is what the authors of the Bill of Rights envisioned as they drafted that document??

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Back at ya
Date:	4/15/2021 8:01:04 AM (updated 4/15/2021 8:13:36 AM)

You keep limiting your comments to cnnBS and pmsnBS which is complete nonsense.  aBS, cBS, nBS, WaPo, NYT, LAT and all the major news outlets were no less propaganda than cnnBS.  They just haven't been caught on camera admitting as much.  And that doesn't even begin to address the censorship and propaganda of places like Fakebook, Google, Twitter and YouTube, nor does it address the billionaires bribing election officials to loosen voting regulations, often in contradiction to the rules established by the state legislatures. 

Goofy, your inability to comprehend simple English is a bit concerning....or maybe you do and are being intentionally obtuse.  So I am typing really slowly and for the sake of clarity I will use caps, THE MAINSTREAM AND SOCIAL MEDIA, WHICH REACHES TENS OF MILLIONS MORE PEOPLE THAN LITTLE OLD FOXNEWS WERE PROPAGANDA OUTLETS FOR THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IN THE 2020 ELECTION WHICH CONTRIBUTED, AND LIKELY CAUSED TRUMP TO LOSE THE ELECTION.  Do you finally comprehend my point or do you want to stay stuck on stupid? 

You can disagree if you like as you have a right to your opinion.  But the idiot at cnnBS confirmed for us what we already knew and their coverage was no more slanted than the rest of the media, sans Fox News.  My opinion is based on the facts and the admission against interests of the cnnBS guy.  Your opinion is likely based on fantasy, wishful thinking and TDS.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Back at ya
Date:	4/15/2021 1:20:09 PM (updated 4/15/2021 1:29:30 PM)

Your original post was "cnnBS busted as propaganda" and I was merely responding to it.  As to other stations...as Trump would say ...it is what it is. He constantly berated reporters and acted like a censor. Maybe, it was pay back for his additude towards anyone who disgreed with him. I don't feel there is any news outlet...print or TV that doesn't, in some way, get into "propaganda" for or against a candidate. The NY Post, Washington Examiner, and WS Journal  are 3 that obviously supported Trump. NYT????obviously Biden. It's America and you win some and lose some prepared to fight another day. 

You will never find any news outlet that is strictly non partisan. It may not be right...but it's a fact of life. We both know that so no need to get into a pissing match.

Trump lost because of Trump. Voters were tired of his wild ass statements about the virus. If he had acted alittle more presidential,  he would probably have won. His suggestions for some of the treatments for the virus made voters wonder if he was sane. He was his worst enemy. Propaganda did not defeat him....his mouth defeated him.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Back at ya
Date:	4/15/2021 1:27:38 PM

Explains your calls to always get rid of Faux news - you would like to limit the propaganda to just your point of view.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Date:	4/15/2021 2:03:03 PM

Thanks for your interest in my post.

 "you would like to limit the propaganda to just your point of view."  Are you any different????????

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	ROFLMAO!
Date:	4/15/2021 2:38:12 PM (updated 4/15/2021 2:39:37 PM)

Can you point to any post of mine that indicated any propaganda news should not exist?

bet you cant find it

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Interesting response
Date:	4/16/2021 9:04:42 AM

I say interesting because you are admitting to something that the media orgs themselves won't admit to in public.....their bias.  They all claim to be the fair minded arbiters of truth.  But the real issue here is not bias....it is the admission of having spewed propaganda in order to defeat the President of the United States.  And I can tell you that I see no difference in the approach and reporting of cnnBS from aBS, cBS or all the rest of them.  

But you still have a problem with reality.  Had the media not spewed propaganda and had big tech not censored any negative information about Biden/Harris (recall the poll that 7% of those that voted for him would not have had they known about the corruption and dementia.....more than enough to change the outcome) and had the billionaires not bribed election officials to change the rules I am 100% convinced Trump would still be President.  

You keep talking about how he handled the virus which is proof positive you still believe the propaganda.  Why?  Because you suffer from TDS and want it to be true.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Interesting response
Date:	4/16/2021 2:26:01 PM

Seems like you have moved from voter fraud to blaming it on the media. Next month, you will realize the fact that Trump lost because of his unhinged mouth. He set himself up with his contant lies which gave the media a daily battle to see who could report more lies. If the media all supported Trump, you would be praising them for "telling the truth". You are a control freak who is pissed off staying up nights trying to control the narrative of why Trump lost.

Giving pardons to his supporters like Stone did not help him. For a Law and Order guy, he did not live up to it as his days in office were winding down.

It is so strange to see your ardent support for a wife cheater, chronic  liar, paid $25 million for cheating students, and the list goes on.

The character of Trump is the polar opposite of everything you stand for when it comes to ethics and morality. 

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Interesting response
Date:	4/16/2021 2:33:12 PM (updated 4/16/2021 2:33:35 PM)

Had the media/social media not been orally pleasuring Biden and running 24-7 negative coverage of Trump and when there was nothing negative enough to report having the DNC/Hillary/FBI just make up lies -I am willing to at least say that the election may have been different without some fingers on the scale.

You speak of ethics and morals, yet you have none.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Interesting response
Date:	4/16/2021 10:16:07 PM

"You speak of ethics and morals, yet you have none." A rather strange statement about me coming from someone who voted for a candidate they considered to be "pretty much is about as low life of a human as possible"..."I will vote for Trump and go outside and vomit." 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Not at all
Date:	4/19/2021 7:54:35 AM

You see Goofy, I can have two thoughts at the same time.  I still believe there was massive vote fraud and it likely made the difference in some key states.  But the govt and social media cost Trump and gained Dementia Joe votes all across the country.  These are not mutually exclusive but it's no surprise you would think otherwise.....facts, logic and reason are not a part of your DNA..or RNA.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Interesting response
Date:	4/19/2021 1:08:20 PM

Well at least I did not vote for Hillary or Xi den - then I would have had to have myself committed.