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PC Al
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For Those Who Care
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4/1/2007 5:03:17 PM
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1. For any and all who are satisfied with the water level of Lake Martin and accept the fact that we have had very little rain and therefore “that’s the way it is” – then this post if not for you. Please skip to the next post.
2. For any, like me, that are frustrated with what has happened with our water levels for the last eight or nine months, then this might be an interesting read. I visited my brother on Lake Harris (Wedowee) yesterday. For those who do not know, Lake Harris is the lake above us on the Tallapoosa. Today, April 1, is the day for the plug to go in their dam to begin summer fill. To my surprise, my brother was happy as a lark because their water has come up a foot and a half in the last ten days. Their water level is higher at this date than any year he has been there. For the same 10 day period last year, their level dropped .4 of a foot. They are starting their fill 1.2 feet above winter pool while Lake Martin started ours .4 of a foot below winter level, a difference of almost one and one half feet. The people who left this thread because of item 1 above would say Martin has not come up because of lack of rain, but the rest of us want to know why the water that brought Lake Harris (Wedowee) up one and one half feet before their fill date did not come down to our lake during our fill time.
Since only the people like myself who are concerned about the water level are reading this post at this point, I will continue. I also have friends who have lake places on Logan Martin Lake, Smith Lake, Lay Lake and Lake Mitchell. Have talked to friends on each lake and none seem concerned about having full pool this year. Smith Lake normally takes their lake down 14 feet for winter pool. They are now down exactly 3 feet from full pool. Seems they had known about the impending drought and have only been down at a low point of 9 feet since December of 2006. In 2007, they have only been down 7.9 feet from full pool at their lowest point. Just over half of normal. Same with Logan Martin, which is now down 1.1 foot from full pool.
When I check the levels of other Alabama Power river systems for their levels March 31 relative to full pool, the numbers show: Black Warrior River – Smith down 3.0 feet, Bankhead down 0.4, Holt down 0.2. Coosa River – Weiss down 0.7, Neely Henry down 1.2 feet, Logan Martin down 1.3 feet, Lay down 0.2, Mitchell down 0.2 and Jordan down 0.8. Tallapoosa River – Harris down 6.8 feet (just started filling today), Martin down 5.9 feet, Yates down 2.8 feet and Thurlow down 1.6 feet. The Tennessee River – Guntersville down 0.8, Pickwick down 1.8 feet, Wheeler down 3.0 feet and Wilson down 1.2 feet.
Despite the lack of rain, it appears other lakes have anticipated the drought and took measures to offset it. Every Alabama Power lake except Martin appears to either be at or above the lake levels they were at this time last year. Again Lake Harris (Wedowee) on the same Tallapoosa River as Lake Martin is up 1.7 feet from this date last year while Martin is 3.9 feet below the fill rule. Sounds like the keeper of the Lake Martin water level also works for the Alabama Two Year College System. They don’t appear to be looking out for our best interest. And because of item 1 above, we don’t have to listen to how much better off we are than Lake Lanier. Who cares about Lake Lanier? We need somebody to look after the interest of Lake Martin.
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Osms
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Don't disagree...
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4/1/2007 5:20:33 PM
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with what you're saying, but that 1.7 ft in Harris Lake will only raise Martin 4 to 5 inches--maybe enough to save a prop, maybe not. I know you're talking about the principle of the matter, not the inches of water level.
We've had a couple of good showers in Dadeville so far and radar shows more coming. Wish all that rain south of here had gone to Rome, GA--our headwaters.
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au67
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For Those Who Care
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4/1/2007 5:33:29 PM
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I doubt that "the keeper of the Lake Martin water level" got past item #1.
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Lakeman
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4/1/2007 6:07:03 PM
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Sombody has done gone and put sipon hoses somewhere in our lake in plaes where we can't see and is saiponing orr water out to keeps the other lakes full so's they can have more fun than us's and can enjoy there lakes more than we can enjoy orr's and they can be happier than we'uns. There ah says it.
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8hcap
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For Those Who Care
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4/1/2007 6:32:17 PM
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I am frustrated as well, but the CEO of Alabama Power has a very nice lake house in Trillium so at some point there will be a subtle change that will help us all out.
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nelems,robert
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4/1/2007 10:59:07 PM
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Check out what is happening on Smith Lake. www.slisa.org
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8, I was thinking the same thing.
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| Name: |
Osms
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Floating docks
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4/1/2007 11:46:28 PM
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Look at the photo gallery. That is not a very good ad for Flotation Systems, Inc.
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PartTimer
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4/2/2007 9:45:43 AM
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You got a lot of idiotic responses to your post, which is par for the course on this board. However, I appreciate your efforts and research. Why not pass this info along to our Governor, the Public Service Commission, and legislative reps and see if they can help? Surely someone has some control over APCO!
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head
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4/2/2007 11:35:54 AM
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The gov can not even fix I-65 in the Capitol city And if you think he will go against AP you must smoking some yellow wood. AP will use the lake the best way they see fit to make money
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Hadenuff
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4/2/2007 1:17:22 PM
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Amen Brother Head. I would rather see I 65 fixed than the lake rise. After all APC does own the lake and can drain it if they see fit. Just make them mad and see who wins. And besides... the gov. doesn't care about lakes, if he jumped in, it might mess up his hair.
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PC Al
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Thanks PartTimer
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4/2/2007 2:31:02 PM
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I didn’t expect anything different from most of the ones who posted. That’s why I put item 1 in there. No problems here. I was interested in the reply about Smith Lake homeowners fighting the System. I know several people on Smith and they seem to be banding together, unlike our group. Lake Harris homeowners are doing the same and it appears that both groups are getting some results. Both lakes are better off now than they were at this time last year. My hopes for posting was that someone might have enough influence to get a newspaper or reporter to pick up on what has happened. I know AP has all the power they need, but I can’t help but think it would be bad PR to publicize that they are raising one lake before their permit allows and it just so happens that they have just opened up new and very expensive lots on that lake. Just like the folks fighting the big boat ban, you might not win but if you don’t try, it’s a cinch you won’t. And by the way, Smith Lake is so deep that if Martin had all the water in that lake, it would probably be in a lot of people’s houses.
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Capt D
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PC AL...Thank you
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4/2/2007 2:53:33 PM
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for the time and effort you spent informing us about other Lake levels.
Good Job!!!!!
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| Name: |
Pier Pressure
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Priorities
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4/2/2007 3:20:37 PM
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First off, it is a bad assumption to believe that the "masses" will give a darn that a few "poor" people who live on the lake are slightly affected by low water. You have resigned yourself to low water for a large portion of the year anyway, and you save money building boat-house on dry sand, so what is the difference (in their eyes). None of us like it, but honestly, what damage is caused by it? I haven't seen any pictures of the property damage portrayed from the photos of Smith Lake at Martin.
Most people cannot afford a big boat. Even more people cannot afford lake property. The people who live on a lake represent less than one percent of the population, and thier income/net worth is within the top 2 percent of population. It isn't news-worthy until you can show a loss (loss of life, or property). It would be different if the water level was permanently lowered, and there was some net loss of value. Keep in mind that your value is already hyper-inflated.
So, it really stinks that the water is low, but it hasn't stopped anyone from getting out on the water and having a good time. Last time I looked most public ramps are open....
AND, keep in mind that a drought affects those in agriculture much more than yourselves and your chosen recreational activities....
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| Name: |
au67
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Lake Level
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4/2/2007 3:52:00 PM
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There are a large number of people who are concerned about Lake Martin. Many of them were at the first Martin Dam Relicensing meeting hosted by Alabama Power. If you were not at the meeting, you missed an opportunity to provide input to this process. See link for more information.
URL: http://www.alabamapower.com/hydro/martin.asp
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Feb
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4/2/2007 5:21:10 PM
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Hey PP, I agree with everything you posted except the hyper-inflated aspect. I was talking with a man this morning about water front property. He was telling me about the price of property on a couple of lakes in this area (Northern Virginia) and property cost on both the Maryland and VA sides of the Potomac River. He also mentioned how crowded it was and getting worse all the time. He was shocked when I mentioned the size of Lake Martin and the guestimated abundance of undeveloped shoreline.
All I will say is Lake Martin is far superior in quality and far less expensive. The only Lake I can recall outside of the deep South which was about the same price was in Kansas. My recollection is from a lot of years back. I do think building cost is up significantly everywhere in addition to the added cost of waterfront lots. Others please jump in and tell me if I am right or wrong about the above?
Folks just do not want to accept the facts. The retiring baby boomers with lifetime earnings, investments and savings are seeking property on recreational/nature based perimeters.
How much should we expect the "Crown Jewel of the South" to cost and not consider it as inflated? I would enjoy hearing various opinions and thoughts.
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boataholic
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4/2/2007 5:37:18 PM
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I watched a few programs on HGTV this winter where new owners gush over the limited water views between houses or over roofs of other houses on $1+ million property in other parts of the country and each time I thought, even the typical older properties on Lake Martin can easily double in price.
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| Name: |
PC Al
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PC AL...Thank you
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4/2/2007 7:13:46 PM
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Thank you too Capt D, but good Lord people, why would so many of you get your panties in a wad about a homeowner wanting water and simply stating some facts. I don’t believe any of the facts I listed are false and everybody is entitled to his/her opinion about what to do about those facts. I stated early on that if you were unconcerned, then the post was NOT for you. For the people that are interested, there it is. I guess this politically divided country is spilling over into more than politics. And how can anyone equate a homeowner wanting some water at his dock this spring to the value of his property in the long run? I am not selling, are you? And for something that is not news-worthy, there sure is a lot of reaction on this small forum. And PP refers to the drought effecting everything, well if you read what I wrote, Martin appears to be the only lake effected so far. I am not talking about this summer, I am talking about right now.
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