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midagefeller
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7/6/2008 7:37:43 PM
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Logan Martin , Neely Henry and Weiss seem to be the step children on the Coosa.
Here Logan Martin is 1.3 feet down while Lay is exactly full pool.
Why?
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skiantique
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7/6/2008 9:37:02 PM
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Because LM is a reservoir and Lay is not, it's run of the river. While unfortunate, it's what Logan Martin and Lake Martin were designed for. We pay less for property (as compared to Mitchell and parts of Lay) because of it and while it's certainly frustrating, this is what Logan Martin is designed for.
chris
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midagefeller
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7/7/2008 6:50:59 AM
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I beg to differ. If Lay isnt a reservoir why exactly was a dam built in order to "reserve" water behind it?
I understand that Logan Martin is the main flood control lake on the coosa due to the surrounding terrain and Ive also heard the arguement that Lay must be held high due to Gaston Steam Plant which also doesnt "hold water" because Gaston was built previous to Lay being raised in the 60s.The lower levels of the Steam Plant are now below water level and the intakes come out of the floor of the basement level there. Ive spent some time there.
Also last year Logan Martin was held for several weeks at 3 feet below full pool. Couldnt
it have just as easily been held 2 or 1 foot below full pool? Possibly at full pool?
Another question, If Logan Martin is a reservoir as you say, then why not maintain it at a higher level in the event that this reserve is required?
I think you answered the question in your responce. Property prices are the answer. Money equals influence!
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BIGWORMK
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7/8/2008 9:26:07 PM
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I know you guys are just venting, but while the drought is on get used to being down. The dams are there for generating electricity. LM is a holding reservoir, Lay is ROR. Our water on Lay fluctuates a whole foot sometimes over the period of hours. And on the property values, as I look at real estate for sale, the only Coosa River reservoir with higher asking prices than LM is Mitchell. We on Lay are still lower but we are catching up. Losing your water sucks, especially during the summer. If it gets too low, come on down to Lay.
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skiantique
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7/8/2008 9:27:49 PM
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You can disagree if you like, but these are the APCO and Core designations and how LM, Martin, and Smith are operated, as reservoirs. The others are operated as run of the river. There are huge discussions from last summer on this and the Martin forum about it.
If property value were driven the other way as you state, then Martin and Smith would be full more. Lay and Mitchell are higher than LM because they are run of the river and stay full mostly.
I don't like it any more than the next guy, but just saying Logan Martin could be held at full pool along with Lay and Mitchell doesn't really make sense as the lakes are designed.
chris
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midagefeller
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7/9/2008 8:00:36 AM
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OK, thank you for your input. Lets take this 2 steps further. What designations do Weiss and Neely Henry have assigned to them? Reservoir or ROR? Both of which are more than a foot below full pool.
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InjunJohn
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7/9/2008 9:05:34 AM
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It's a losing battle... I thoroughly ticked off APCO people over this last year and their response is what the others here have said. Lay & below are "run of the river" lakes, and won't fluctuate as much as Logan Martin (Coosa system only). Like it or not, that's their story and they're sticking to it. We all hate to see the water receding, but we can still use the lake, and we have more than last year. Let's not complain because a rose has thorns. Be safe.
John
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twc
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7/9/2008 9:41:35 PM
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But......
Seems to me that if the ROR part is correct, they would use the farthest upstream river FIRST to sustain the downstream flows. In other words, use Neely Henry to maintain a certain flow rate, holding LM full or nearly so until Neely Henry reached a certain level. Once NH reaches that level below summer pool, start releasing from LM, again to a certain level. Then Lay and so on. That way, what is the last lake in the Coosa chain? Mitchell? would stay full the longest in a drought situation and the only downside I can see is the flood protection should we get a summer storm like a tropical system would bring. But don't we usually have enough warning for things like that? It just doesn't make sense to me to have a ROR with resevoirs on either side of it.
I guess I'm just not smart enough to make it a complicated as it seems.
And John I agree, our rose may have thorns but it sure smells good and is easy to look at.
Peace,
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TC
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skiantique
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7/9/2008 10:09:47 PM
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I am certainly not one to stick up for APCO and some of their decisions, but if it were that simple, I think it would already be being managed that way.
chris
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BIGWORMK
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7/9/2008 10:58:39 PM
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Remember also that we are responsible for adding water to the Alabama for navigation. That was the main gripe I had last year. Even though we didn't lose our water last year, the fact that they floated so much water to the Alabama for a dredging project that could've waited was just insane. It's also insane that we are at the mercy of the gov't for releases from Altoona, and we all know the battles we've had with Georgia recently about the Coosa and Tallapoosa rivers.
The worst part is that most folks don't know this kind of stuff when they buy a home on the lake,I certainly didn't. But you find out real quick. I was lucky enough to buy property on a lake that stays full. Be safe guys.
Kevin
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