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Yankee06
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Betrayal
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9/18/2009 8:21:56 PM
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-I always enjoy these threads, partly because you never know where they will end up. We started with thoughts on teh missile decision and end up doing away with NATO and teh UN.
-UN: pathetic organization. do away with it. Take its disaster support elements and organize then into a Worls Relief Organization.
-NATO: was designed to serve US national interests in stopping and comtaning Soviet expansion. Rather than dissolve it, we have tried to evolve it so it still serves our national intersts. We have done a "fair" job of this since the end of teh USSR. Is it worth the price? I don't know, but we haven't had a major war among European nations in over a half century, which appears to be in our national interests since we were drawn into two of them in teh previous half century. You be the judge.
-EE Missile Defense agreement: I was agaist this when I worked in the Pentagon after teh demise of teh USSR. I thought it was needlessly poking the bear in the eye. That was the time for debate. Now it is an agreement between allies. Historically , American presidents have often changed domestic poicies after being elected. However, foreign polices have been very much less subject to change. The alliance systems take decades, sometimes centuries, to develop. And what is being developed is primarily "Trust." What Obama has done is brerak teh trust among, teh US, NATO and its East European allies, allies it haas brought into NATO. Those defensive missle were a physical representation of teh US commitmant to stand beside those countries in time of threaat. It has, de facto, again made Russia the reional super powwer in teh Eurasia landmass. What Obama has done is say to Europe and teh world you may no longer be able to trust us to bide by our written commitments. What he is saying is that the US is changing its focus from Europe to the Mid East. After his recent tour of teh mid-east, this change to a NATO commitment to supposedly solicit help in a mid-east situation (Iran) has to concern Europe. Further, Taiwan and Japan will look at this and try to determine if teh US will now stand by them against China should a future confrontation arise. If teh view of the US in Europe and Asia changes in this manner, then look for nuclear proliferation in Taiwan, Japan, and Europe.
-If people think this assessment is too much to draw from Obama's cancelling of this agreement, then i'd say they don't know their history, and more importantly, they don't understand teh precarious position of US influence in the present world.
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