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	Name:	MartiniMan -
	Subject:	What a shock
	Date:	9/8/2009 9:31:50 AM

I did not express my opinion, I gave you facts and drew reasonable conclusions from them. As is typical of your responses you are fact free and logic free, but you feel good about yourself.

A reasonable person would conclude that less than one half of one percent of increased spending doesn't equate to a 3% increase in the economy or whatever they are claiming. You don't need to be a god to understand basic math and simple economics.

I pointed out that the majority of that initial spending simply filled budget gaps in state and local budgets which allowed these governments to CONTINUE paying their employees (mostly union so the payback continues). Keeping people employed simply prevents a greater fall in employment levels, it does not add to the economy, duh!

Finally, I pointed out factually that government creates nothing. Therefore every penny that the government deigns to hand out to its preferred constituents comes from the productive in society that pays taxes. Now you explain to me how taking money from the economy in the form of taxes, wasting $2 of every $3 and then returning $1 causes a bump? I know you are too old to have your mind polluted by the new math but maybe you took some continuing education that explains how taking $3 from someone and then giving them $1 back somehow makes them better off.

I have said this before but I would worry about any building you design unless an engineer does the math. And the title to your post doesn't surprise me that you stand by your comments even though they are unsupported by facts.