It seems to me, and this observation did not start with this thread but a long history of trying to discuss issues of importance with liberals, that liberals are always angry, that one can't have a give and take discussion of issues without the liberal gettin very angry. Goofy is the only exception I can think of, and that is partly because many of his posts are nothing more than drivel intended to get a rise out of conservatives. I don't believe for a minute he has a free phone or any of the free stuff he claims to get. Yet even with Goofy you can't engage in a meaningful discussion because he simply ignores anything that challenges or disproves his position. That being said, he is still a coward in my book for refusing to reveal his true identity. Doesn't seem to bother him.