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Name:   Talullahhound The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   No, I am completely correct
Date:   10/24/2019 9:53:49 PM

You misundertand.  I do think it is important to figure out what happened in 2016 but only as a means to keep it from happening again.  I don't think it should be about revenge or getting dirt.  Trump came out of the dossier investigation fine - he didn't lose the election as a result and in the end it reflected poorly on Hilary et al.  It wasn't true.  

I just think all these endless investigations have to end at some point.  

And I disagree with you about Guiliani. He was indeed running shadow diplomacy, along with Sonderland.  You do not have the President's personal lawyer mucking around in diplomacy.  It makes no sense and creates a bad situation for the Ambassador as you are seeing.  It undermines his ability to speak for the U.S., which is his job.  That is why you are seeing all these people testifying - it isn't about politics, it's about it not being right.  Even John Bolton knew that Guiliani was going to blow things up  and he said as much. In the real world, it is expected that the Ambassador carries the U.S message.  You may not see it, but what has been done is wrong.  

Trump is right, other people have used assistance as a pot sweetner to get countries to fight corruption or accomplish specific things - but it usually in the best interest of the US, not because someone wants to get revenge.  

 

Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
The "L" word - Talullahhound - 10/22/2019 9:43:11 PM
     The "L" word - MartiniMan - 10/23/2019 8:14:11 AM
          So 2 wrongs do make a right - architect - 10/23/2019 12:07:25 PM
               So 2 wrongs do make a right - MartiniMan - 10/23/2019 3:47:54 PM
     The "L" word - phil - 10/23/2019 8:54:09 AM
          WRONG MM JUST PLAIN WRONG - GoneFishin - 10/23/2019 4:19:26 PM
               No, I am completely correct - MartiniMan - 10/23/2019 4:47:35 PM
                    No, I am completely correct - Talullahhound - 10/23/2019 9:52:04 PM
                         No, I am completely correct - MrHodja - 10/23/2019 9:59:44 PM
                              No, I am completely correct - Talullahhound - 10/24/2019 9:55:06 AM
                         [Message deleted by author] - MrHodja - 10/23/2019 9:59:45 PM
                         No, I am completely correct - MartiniMan - 10/24/2019 8:32:37 AM
                              No, I am completely correct - phil - 10/24/2019 9:29:41 AM
                              No, I am completely correct - MrHodja - 10/24/2019 9:36:01 AM
                                   Ya think? - MartiniMan - 10/24/2019 9:43:40 AM
                              No, I am completely correct - Talullahhound - 10/24/2019 10:10:17 AM
                                   No, I am completely correct - MartiniMan - 10/24/2019 11:00:18 AM
                                        No, I am completely correct - Buteye - 10/24/2019 11:59:06 AM
                                        No, I am completely correct - Talullahhound - 10/24/2019 9:53:49 PM
                                             No, I am completely correct - MartiniMan - 10/25/2019 8:42:29 AM
                                                  No, I am completely correct - Talullahhound - 10/26/2019 11:35:53 AM



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