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Name:   MartiniMan The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   I agree too
Date:   6/8/2009 7:37:11 PM

You are missing the entire gay marriage argument and that is that the term marriage is and has always been defined as the union of one man and one woman. That there are deviations from that definition does not change the definition.

I think maybe you should illuminate us about exactly why gay people want to marry. What exactly are they trying to get from this demand?

No one is saying they can't live in the same household, share expenses, commit sodomy as often as they like in the privacy of their own homes or whatever. They have the same civil rights as married couples so that old saw is gone. The point is they want to be "married" because it confers a sense of legitimacy on a sexual relationship that is in defiance of natural law. And the more radical of them want to destroy traditional marriage and the family, again as a demented way to confer legitimacy to their lifestyle choices. A good many gay people understand this and object to the radical agenda for that very reason.

As far as 70% in the middle, you are dreaming and this is just another example of your fact-free opinionating. In fact a majority of Americans oppose same-sex marriage and even left leaning states like California rejected it overwhelmingly and were recently affirmed by the courts. Further, about 30% of Americans are self proclaimed liberals and 30% are self-proclaimed conservatives. Unless you grew up with the new math that only leaves 40% in the supposed middle. But even of that 40%, poll after poll shows the majority leaning to the right (ie, they have liberal and conservative views on various issues but more of the latter than the former).

Again, I worry about any building you design unless you are just drawing a pretty picture that and engineer actually makes work.
Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
Cheney 1, homophobes 0 - architect - 6/1/2009 7:26:11 PM
     Old news, old debate, yawn.... - MartiniMan - 6/1/2009 7:35:56 PM
          I knew it would be you - architect - 6/1/2009 10:33:07 PM
               I knew it would be you - MartiniMan - 6/2/2009 10:23:37 AM
     And your point is? - MrHodja - 6/1/2009 11:38:58 PM
     Key Words... - lamont - 6/2/2009 8:12:26 AM
     Cheney 1, homophobes 0 - Old Crappie - 6/2/2009 9:31:47 AM
          Cheney 1, homophobes 0 - Astro - 6/2/2009 12:12:54 PM
               Cheney 1, homophobes 0 - Talullahhound - 6/2/2009 5:22:58 PM
                    Cheney 1, homophobes 0 - Astro - 6/2/2009 7:18:35 PM
                         Cheney 1, homophobes 0 - Talullahhound - 6/2/2009 8:33:39 PM
                              Cheney 1, homophobes 0 - MrHodja - 6/2/2009 10:06:02 PM
                                   Cheney 1, homophobes 0 - Talullahhound - 6/3/2009 12:09:24 AM
                                        Cheney 1, homophobes 0 - MartiniMan - 6/3/2009 1:11:11 PM
               Hey, ASTRO... - Mack - 6/3/2009 8:24:23 PM
                    Hey, ASTRO... - Astro - 6/3/2009 10:24:51 PM
                         Your Statement - Talullahhound - 6/4/2009 8:54:27 AM
                    Hey, ASTRO... - Talullahhound - 6/4/2009 8:55:25 AM
                         Hey, ASTRO... - architect - 6/4/2009 1:00:27 PM
                              Give me a break!! - Swimmer27 - 6/4/2009 4:26:00 PM
                                   The problem - Talullahhound - 6/4/2009 5:58:31 PM
                                        I agree - Swimmer27 - 6/4/2009 8:12:59 PM
                                             I agree too - architect - 6/4/2009 9:13:00 PM
                                                  Oh, and by the way - architect - 6/4/2009 9:15:54 PM
                                                       Finally..... - Swimmer27 - 6/5/2009 10:49:02 AM
                                                            You must be kidding - architect - 6/5/2009 10:56:58 PM
                                                       Finally we agree on something - MartiniMan - 6/8/2009 7:20:47 PM
                                                  I agree too - MartiniMan - 6/8/2009 7:37:11 PM
                                                       I agree too - Talullahhound - 6/8/2009 8:27:16 PM
                                                            I agree too - MartiniMan - 6/8/2009 10:44:35 PM
                                                                 We're in violent agreement n/t - Talullahhound - 6/9/2009 8:10:17 AM
                                                                      We're in violent agreement n/t - MartiniMan - 6/9/2009 9:11:16 AM
                                                                           No Text (n/t) - Talullahhound - 6/9/2009 4:52:50 PM
                                        The problem - MrHodja - 6/4/2009 9:49:37 PM
                                             The problem - architect - 6/4/2009 10:15:13 PM
                                                  The problem - MrHodja - 6/4/2009 10:54:38 PM
                                                       What are you talking about - architect - 6/4/2009 11:04:01 PM
                                                            What are you talking about - MrHodja - 6/4/2009 11:16:29 PM
                                                                 What are you talking about - architect - 6/4/2009 11:41:52 PM
                                                                      What are you talking about - architect - 6/4/2009 11:47:26 PM
                                                                           What are you talking about - MrHodja - 6/5/2009 12:08:31 PM
                                                                                What are you talking about - architect - 6/5/2009 11:08:10 PM
                                                                                     What are you talking about - MrHodja - 6/6/2009 12:36:59 AM
                                                                                          Hope you are bringing back - Talullahhound - 6/6/2009 9:06:53 AM
                                                                                          What are you talking about - architect - 6/6/2009 5:48:30 PM
                                                                                               What are you talking about - MrHodja - 6/6/2009 8:05:29 PM



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