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Name:   Yankee06 The author of this post is registered as a member
Subject:   Truly a sad development
Date:   3/11/2010 10:19:43 PM

-Interesting thread.
-Maybe too much to really talk about here: wages, benefits, efficiency, effectiveness, etc.
-But my wages have been good enough over the years so that I can add another two cents here.
-I worked 28 years in the Army; two years as a government civilian; 10 years as a civilan in a large firm, and four years as head of my own small firm. ..so I have had a little flavor of both government and non-government jobs, workers, wages, and benefits..
-On wages, my sense is that at teh lower end of teh scale, civilian and government are close, but government benefits are better. In mid-level, government pay is generally higher, and benefits are better. At the higher levels, government pay is way lower and benefits are also way lower.
-Example, a two-star general makes about $150,000 a year. As a division commander he is in charge of approximately 20,000-25,000 soldiers. In the Iraq invasion, he had to move those 25,000 soldiers 8,000 miles in such a manner that when they arrived they could move in sequence across hundreds of miles while under attack. How many people in civilian life who make $150,000 year have that kind of responsibility.
-Another example: The Chief Justice of teh Supreme Court makes about $180,000 a year . Judge judy makes more than $10 million.
-Of course I could also give examples of high-level government officials who wouldn't be trusted running the copier in civilian companies, and vice-versa.
-The government is never going to be efficient, ...the best we can ask for is that it be effective. However, sometimes we don't even get that. I can't speak for all government agencies, but I know that in Defense there are a lot of people working hard for long hours, that translates to low hourly wage, to give us effective results.
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Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
Service? - Lifer - 3/11/2010 10:58:40 AM
     Truly a sad development - MartiniMan - 3/11/2010 12:27:30 PM
          Truly a sad development - Talullahhound - 3/11/2010 2:04:06 PM
               Truly a sad development - MartiniMan - 3/11/2010 2:33:21 PM
               Truly a sad development - Lifer - 3/11/2010 3:27:48 PM
                    Truly a sad development - 4691 - 3/11/2010 8:05:33 PM
                         Truly a sad development - Talullahhound - 3/11/2010 9:01:05 PM
                              Truly a sad development - MartiniMan - 3/11/2010 9:30:40 PM
                                   Truly a sad development - MrHodja - 3/11/2010 10:30:16 PM
                                        Truly a sad development - MartiniMan - 3/12/2010 8:50:16 AM
                                             MM, you are wrong - Talullahhound - 3/12/2010 9:27:20 AM
                                                  MM, you are wrong - MartiniMan - 3/12/2010 5:17:15 PM
                                                       MM, you are wrong - Talullahhound - 3/12/2010 8:29:04 PM
                                                            Things must be different in DoD - MartiniMan - 3/13/2010 10:36:44 AM
                                                                 Things must be different in DoD - Talullahhound - 3/13/2010 10:45:39 AM
                                                                      this is about comparing the average worker - 4691 - 3/13/2010 9:33:13 PM
                                                                           Understand your point - Talullahhound - 3/14/2010 7:37:41 PM
                                                                      Things must be different in DoD - MartiniMan - 3/14/2010 10:03:27 AM
                                   Truly a sad development - Talullahhound - 3/12/2010 8:53:08 AM
                         Truly a sad development - Barneget - 3/11/2010 9:13:16 PM
                              Truly a sad development - Yankee06 - 3/11/2010 10:19:43 PM



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