Name:   phil - Subject:   Hey CRD Date:   6/26/2018 2:04:33 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/11/04/india.bikes/index.html

ttp://cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/08/23/harley-davidson-made-in-america-in-thailand-in-singapore-and-tomorrow-in-india/

2009 -- Harley Thailand, Singapore?  wait, it just can not be that they have moved production out of the US to other markets... 

Damn Trump and his time machine - moving production out of the US back when Obama was president just to make Obama look bad....

Harley also did not mind the tariffs against Japanese bikes back in the 80s, but they did ask for the tariffs to be stoped around 1987 when their ledger got out of the red.  link

Trade experts said the move could influence trade debates in Congress. ''It will strengthen those who argue that temporary protectionism can lead to successful adjustment,'' said I. M. Destler, who follows trade issues at the Institute for International Economics in Washington.

However, Mr. Destler added, skeptics would argue that saving a single threatened company that occupies one niche of a market, as Harley does with its high-powered cycles known as ''hogs,'' is not the same as protecting an entire industry. Moreover, Harley enjoyed the advantage of an especially loyal following among motorcycle aficionados who often regard the lower-cost Japanese models as imitations, however advanced they are technically.

''It's not surprising that Harley weathered the storm,'' said Paul Dean, editor of Cycle World, a magazine based in Newport Beach, Calif. Harley's cycles cost from $4,000 to more than $10,000 and are up to 50 percent more expensive than competitive Japanese models. ''The people who ride them are fanatical,'' he added.

SO HD - Tariffs are good if they help us against unfair competition till we can get our crap together, Tariffs are bad if they hurt us due to other markets having unfair competition and we are collateral damage in a much larger picture.