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Name:   architect The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   WHAT IS A LIBERAL
Date:   12/2/2012 9:48:36 AM

A liberal (not a leftwing extremist) in my thinking believes the natural order of things is to progress toward more freedom of thought and action. A liberal does not believe in government action for the sake of action but does believe government should and must take action when inaction would make things worse for the "masses". For instance...in 1932 the very competent and honorable Herbert Hoover proposed to follow the conservative mantra and let the marketplace self correct. For FDR that was not good enough in the conditions of the time and he instituted government intervention to avoid, at best, extreme suffering by the least among us and, at worst, revolution. Liberals believe that ultimately each conscience must determine moral values and that only when those values intrude on the life or liberty or property of others should restrictions be imposed. Liberals believe that a system of taxation which promotes good should be encouraged. Liberals believe that the freedom to speak out without restriction is the ultimate freedom. Liberals believe in military might to protect our shores even when we go to other shores to do it but not in military adventurism to influence who rules others. Liberals believe in talking even with your opponents (enemies even) to promote understand (avoidance of conflict) until it becomes obvious that such talk is not productive...in a word liberals believe in a endorse compromise.

My most admired liberal was Harry Truman

POLITICAL SPECTRUM as I think I remember it from "Todays Isims" (sorry...Cannot remember the author) from my college days:

COMMUNIST/DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST/LIBERAL/CENTRIST/CONSERVATIVE/CORPORATIST/FASCIST

Complete government control lies at each end ..I stand a little right of centrist on many issues (especially fiscal) and a little left of centrist on many issues (especially social) and I think the vast majority of Americans outside the deep south are in the same place. You folks on Lake Martin or living in a bubble defined by Lush Windbag, FAUX News and Martiny Man.

BTW: Do you know that after Windel Wilkie lost to FDR in 1940, the two of them corresponded seriously about the possibility and need of a new Liberal political party after the war (already on in Europe and both men knew that eventually we would be drawn in) with both of them as members. To be sure it would be based on foreign policies more than social or fiscal, but a specific Liberal Party with both the Republican and Democratic standard bearers of 1940 in the ranks.
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For Mr.H - architect - 12/1/2012 9:17:55 AM
     Archy - wix - 12/1/2012 10:11:45 AM
          WIX - GoneFishin - 12/1/2012 10:56:07 AM
               WIX - roswellric - 12/1/2012 12:20:03 PM
          Fine WIX and company - architect - 12/1/2012 11:35:09 AM
               Archy and goofy - wix - 12/1/2012 1:47:24 PM
                    Please explain - architect - 12/1/2012 2:57:02 PM
                         Archy - wix - 12/1/2012 3:02:27 PM
                              WHAT IA A RIGHTWING EXTREMIST?? - architect - 12/1/2012 4:04:36 PM
                                   WHAT IA A RIGHTWING EXTREMIST?? - wix - 12/1/2012 5:28:28 PM
                                        [Message deleted by author] - GoneFishin - 12/1/2012 6:52:55 PM
                                        WHAT IS A CONSERVATIVE - architect - 12/1/2012 11:12:08 PM
                                             WHAT IS A CONSERVATIVE - comrade - 12/1/2012 11:26:16 PM
                                                  WHAT IS A LIBERAL - architect - 12/2/2012 9:48:36 AM
                                                       WHAT IS A LIBERAL - comrade - 12/2/2012 7:23:15 PM
                                                            WHERE DO PARTIES LIE?...Just my observation - architect - 12/3/2012 8:18:10 AM
                                             [Message deleted by author] - MrHodja - 12/2/2012 2:26:39 AM
                                             Archy - wix - 12/2/2012 9:12:40 AM
                                                  YOU ARE WELL AQUAINTED WITH BS!! - architect - 12/2/2012 9:49:48 AM
          [Message deleted by author] - architect - 12/1/2012 11:35:20 AM
     For Mr.H - MrHodja - 12/1/2012 12:15:45 PM
          For De Wix - GoneFishin - 12/1/2012 2:59:13 PM
               Goofy - wix - 12/1/2012 4:03:11 PM
               Please explain - Lifer - 12/1/2012 5:04:26 PM
                    WHAT IS A RIGHTWING EXTREMIST?? - GoneFishin - 12/1/2012 6:56:19 PM
                         Hey WIX - GoneFishin - 12/1/2012 6:59:25 PM
                              Please explain - GoneFishin - 12/1/2012 7:15:13 PM
                                   Please explain - comrade - 12/1/2012 7:19:42 PM
                              Hey WIX - comrade - 12/1/2012 7:16:57 PM
                                   Comrade - GoneFishin - 12/1/2012 8:19:50 PM
                                        Goofy - wix - 12/1/2012 10:00:22 PM
                                             Goofy to Wixxie - GoneFishin - 12/1/2012 10:18:40 PM
                                                  Goofy to Wixxie - comrade - 12/1/2012 10:37:05 PM
                                                  [Message deleted by author] - comrade - 12/1/2012 10:37:16 PM
                                                  Goofy - wix - 12/2/2012 9:09:40 AM
     For Mr.H - Casey - 12/2/2012 8:44:04 AM
          For Mr.H et al - architect - 12/2/2012 9:08:18 AM
               Comrade and Wixxie - GoneFishin - 12/2/2012 10:51:55 AM
                    Goof - wix - 12/2/2012 1:52:30 PM
                         You're kidding of course - architect - 12/3/2012 8:20:11 AM
                              You're kidding of course - comrade - 12/3/2012 8:22:52 AM
                    GOOFY - wix - 12/2/2012 3:59:38 PM



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