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Name:   Talullahhound The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Don't blame Hound
Date:   12/13/2009 8:24:19 PM

I was a DoD civilian and worked jowl to jowl with military people almost every day of my career. Shared office space with them. Counted them among my friends.

MM, I am not sure who these government civilians are that you have been working with. But, I will tell you this -- it is not the job of the government to do industry's bidding or to rubber stamp every industry wants to do, so maybe the reluctance you see on their part has more to do with your expectations than their personal attributes. I have been called names by industry people who felt that their failure to plan should be my crisis. I've also been called names when I told industry people that what they wanted to do wasn't going to happen. Because my job was to consider the long term national security of the US -- not the short term goals of industry.
But, I have also spent months working with industry when they approached the government with an objective that could be implemented in a way that benefited the company, benefitted their customer and didn't hurt national security. Was it a painless process? NO. But, we got through it and I think there was a lot of respect on both sides when we were done. That may not mean much to you and to others on this forum, but it meant a lot to those who benefited.

So it really irks me to hear someone like you bad mouth the very thing that I, and my colleagues gave our blood and sweat to accomplish, not just one year, but year in and year out. You have no idea about the challenges that are faced and overcome. People in government service truly believe in our country, so we serve it, and endure the scorn of those such as yourself and others on this board, that just don't understand it.

As far as my "socialist" leanings -- well, you don't know me at all. You couldn't spot me in a crowd. So before you go calling me names and telling me about my leanings, I suggest you find out who I am and spend some time talking to me.
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Avg Fed Pay $71K - MartiniMan - 12/11/2009 9:12:15 AM
     Avg Fed Pay $71K - au67 - 12/11/2009 10:28:04 AM
     Avg Fed Pay $71K - au67 - 12/11/2009 10:30:30 AM
          Avg Fed Pay $71K - Yankee06 - 12/11/2009 11:59:54 AM
               Avg Fed Pay $71K - GoneFishin - 12/11/2009 1:04:45 PM
                    Avg Fed Pay $71K - Yankee06 - 12/11/2009 1:35:20 PM
                         Yankee - GoneFishin - 12/11/2009 2:51:31 PM
                    GF - Talullahhound - 12/11/2009 4:08:02 PM
               Avg Fed Pay $71K - Talullahhound - 12/11/2009 4:19:53 PM
     Avg Fed Pay $71K - Talullahhound - 12/11/2009 4:28:04 PM
     Avg Fed Pay $71K - au67 - 12/11/2009 4:30:20 PM
          Avg Fed Pay $71K - Talullahhound - 12/11/2009 4:36:03 PM
               Avg Fed Pay $71K - Yankee06 - 12/11/2009 5:01:13 PM
     Missing the point guys. - alahusker - 12/11/2009 5:16:40 PM
          Hound - GoneFishin - 12/11/2009 5:47:49 PM
          Missing the point guys. - Yankee06 - 12/11/2009 6:06:32 PM
          Missing the point guys. - Talullahhound - 12/11/2009 7:48:49 PM
               Missing the point guys. - au67 - 12/11/2009 8:42:28 PM
                    Missing the point guys. - alahusker - 12/11/2009 9:23:01 PM
               And actually, - alahusker - 12/11/2009 9:25:27 PM
                    And actually, - Talullahhound - 12/11/2009 9:49:05 PM
                         Whoa - MrHodja - 12/12/2009 8:30:42 AM
                              Whoa - Talullahhound - 12/12/2009 8:50:09 AM
                                   Whoa - MrHodja - 12/12/2009 8:54:19 AM
                                   Whoa - MrHodja - 12/12/2009 8:59:01 AM
                                        Whoa - Talullahhound - 12/12/2009 9:58:59 AM
                         Spoken.... - Lifer - 12/14/2009 12:45:02 PM
               Actually, - alahusker - 12/11/2009 9:39:55 PM
               Missing the point guys. - 4691 - 12/12/2009 10:23:50 AM
                    Missing the point guys. - Barneget - 12/12/2009 2:54:30 PM
                    Missing the point guys. - Talullahhound - 12/12/2009 2:56:32 PM
                         Self reliance - alahusker - 12/12/2009 7:40:22 PM
                    Oh and BTW - Talullahhound - 12/12/2009 3:01:28 PM
                         Oh and BTW - Barneget - 12/12/2009 3:21:27 PM
                         Oh and BTW - 4691 - 12/13/2009 3:57:16 PM
               Don't blame Hound - MartiniMan - 12/13/2009 4:14:03 PM
                    Don't blame Hound - MrHodja - 12/13/2009 4:36:12 PM
                         Don't blame Hound - MartiniMan - 12/13/2009 6:11:51 PM
                              Don't blame Hound - MrHodja - 12/13/2009 6:45:41 PM
                                   Don't blame Hound - Talullahhound - 12/13/2009 8:24:19 PM
                                        Don't blame Hound - 4691 - 12/13/2009 8:39:48 PM
                                             Don't blame Hound --- I don't - 4691 - 12/13/2009 9:33:02 PM
                                                  Don't blame Hound --- I don't - MartiniMan - 12/13/2009 10:17:51 PM
                                        My, my but arent you cranky - MartiniMan - 12/13/2009 10:10:51 PM
                                             My, my but arent you cranky - Talullahhound - 12/14/2009 8:36:03 AM
                                                  My, my but arent you cranky - MartiniMan - 12/14/2009 8:52:06 AM
                                                       MM - Talullahhound - 12/14/2009 9:42:49 AM
                                                            MM - MartiniMan - 12/14/2009 12:02:51 PM
                                                                 MM - Talullahhound - 12/14/2009 5:14:06 PM
                                                                      Well said - MartiniMan - 12/14/2009 5:30:08 PM
                                                                           I agree - Talullahhound - 12/14/2009 9:44:38 PM
                                                            I'm a worried optimist.. - alahusker - 12/14/2009 5:17:25 PM
                                                                 I'm a worried optimist.. - Talullahhound - 12/14/2009 9:35:21 PM
                                                                      Hound, you are a confident - alahusker - 12/14/2009 10:14:09 PM
                                                                           Yup! - Talullahhound - 12/15/2009 8:28:42 AM
                                                                                Yup! - MrHodja - 12/15/2009 8:36:08 AM
                                                                                Yup! - MrHodja - 12/15/2009 8:36:12 AM
                                                                                !@#$ - MrHodja - 12/15/2009 8:39:42 AM
                                                                                     !@#$ - Talullahhound - 12/15/2009 2:46:59 PM
                                                                                          !@#$ - MrHodja - 12/15/2009 4:53:07 PM
                                                                                          Hound, - alahusker - 12/15/2009 6:29:22 PM
                                                                                               Hound, - Talullahhound - 12/15/2009 10:23:04 PM
                                                                                                    Hound, - MrHodja - 12/16/2009 12:11:23 AM
                                                                                                         NMCC - alahusker - 12/16/2009 12:20:02 PM
                                                       My, my but arent you cranky - MrHodja - 12/14/2009 9:57:11 AM
                                   Let's cool it. - alahusker - 12/13/2009 10:07:59 PM


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