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	Name:	Talullahhound -
	Subject:	Truly a sad development
	Date:	3/11/2010 9:01:05 PM

Regarding overtime: I did not get paid for overtime once I left the journeyman grades, but I sure worked plenty of it. I think you would be surprised the number of "uncompensated" hours that government employees work. My average workday for the last 10 years of my career was about 12 hours -- the last 2 years, I routinely worked 14 hour days.

Regarding business class travel: At least in DoD, any business class travel had to be personally approved by the Secretary of Defense. IT was not delegated to one of his staff. The only times that I traveled business class was when either the airlines voluntarily upgraded me or when a foreign government insisted that we travel on their airlines and provided the ticket. Now others may be doing it all the time, but how they did it is beyond me.

I don't know about plush trips by industry -- all I know is what people tell me. One friend's husband routinely got a paid vacation to a lux location for "winning" on production. Another friend's husband routinely travels to business conferences in nice places all expenses paid -- things like the Daytona 500, Las Vegas and Palm Springs.
The deputy Director of our organization before me, came to us from private defense industy. He was in their executive pool and got a car allowance; paid membership at two different clubs (the Army/Navy Country Club and the Army/Navy Club in downtown DC); he took a pay cut to come govt (he faced mandatory retirement at his company), but the year before he left, he got a $60K bonus on top of his $200K salary.

I don't claim to be an expert. I don't think I'm out of touch. I know a lot of people in government and out of government.