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Talullahhound
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The Union Thing
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11/16/2010 3:53:10 PM
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I hear much being made about Unions for civil service, but to be honest, in 32 years I worked for the government I never saw a thing the union did for us. I never belonged and no one I knew ever belonged; and quite frankly, those that were involved with the Unions seemed to be in it for personal gain.
I know it is quite popular right now to bash civil servants, but it is not right for civil servants to bear the brunt of frustrations about the government. Most are hard working and put up with a lot of frustration --- a new crop of clueless political appointees who come in with an agenda, without any understanding of government. If the bosses don't seem to have much leverage over the employees, the employees don't have any leverage over the bosses either, and as a result, can end up with some pretty abusive situations that no one in industry would tolerate. And yes, it would appear that on average salaries are high, keep in mind that under Clinton/Gore "reinventing" government the administrative and journeyman level jobs were ooutsourced to support contractors "to save money" (but in fact, it doesn't save anything). So the people that are left are well educated and bring a lot of experience. When they are coming up with the average salary, there are no longer low paid people in the mix. Almost no one has administrative assistants who are government employees and they haven't had any clerks in years. All of the miltiary base operations are done by contractors now and most of the security. So when you hear that the average salary is high, there aren't any lower salaried people to bring the average down, like in private industry.
I will say that I think the grade structure has gotten over-inflated over a period of time. It started back in the Reagan years and has gone on from there. There has been a proliferation of SES positions -- they used to be quite rare and only went to the top managers. I know in the Pentagon there are some SES positions that aren't even supervisory. SES positions are the ones that can go up to $170K a year, and there bonus structure is much more generous than the normal workforce, being a percentage of their salary. I've seen SES bonus around $25K a year.
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