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Name:   Talullahhound The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   The real irony of it all
Date:   2/23/2011 7:48:33 AM

The teachers have already agreed to the pay concessions, i.e. additional contributions. what they are trying to preserve is their collective bargaining for the future. How does that impact the immediate problem with the Wisconsin budget? It doesn't.

I'll be the first to agree that in some cases, most notably Detroit, that Unions have done far more damage than good with outrageous demands. But negotiation is a fundamental principle and right, and maybe the state just needs to negotiate better, rather than crushing the process.

Regarding "pay for perfomance" I can only speak to what was tried Defense during my career. It was implemented 3 times and all three times it had to be abandoned. There just isn't a good way to evaluate the "success" of the development and implementation of regulatory processes. And I can tell you first hand, it becomes a management nightmare.
The most effective piece of the all three attempts was the pay banding, which allowed some adjustment of pay according to performance within the band. The problem isn't identifying and paying the superstars; but trying to differentiate the success level of the good solid people who do a very good job and can grind out the routine work in a fair and equitable manner. After a certain level, money does not motivate people. They perform better by understanding their role in the process and feeling like they are contributing in a meaningful way, and recognition. I've had better success motivating people with small recognition awards than larg(er) end of the year bonuses. (Outside of the Senior Executive Service, there are no really large performance awards.) It's particularly challenging with a technical workforce (i.e. engineers).
There needs to be a different model. I've played around with a few ideas, but it's a complex problem. It's something I'm very interested in and have spent a great deal of time thinking about.
Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
When We Have Gov't Shutdowns and Such... - lamont - 2/22/2011 1:22:11 PM
     "Non-Essential" vs. "Essential". - Talullahhound - 2/22/2011 1:40:04 PM
          "Non-Essential" vs. "Essential". - water_watcher - 2/22/2011 3:41:05 PM
     The real irony of it all - MartiniMan - 2/22/2011 3:55:59 PM
          The real irony of it all - Talullahhound - 2/22/2011 4:44:47 PM
               The real irony of it all - water_watcher - 2/22/2011 5:09:27 PM
                    WW - Talullahhound - 2/22/2011 5:31:18 PM
                         WW - water_watcher - 2/24/2011 7:51:46 PM
               The real irony of it all - MartiniMan - 2/22/2011 5:29:54 PM
                    The real irony of it all - Talullahhound - 2/22/2011 8:04:10 PM
                         The real irony of it all - Barneget - 2/22/2011 9:03:58 PM
                              The real irony of it all - 4691 - 2/22/2011 9:59:44 PM
                         The real irony of it all - MartiniMan - 2/22/2011 10:07:20 PM
                              Great video - water_watcher - 2/22/2011 10:24:02 PM
                              The real irony of it all - Talullahhound - 2/23/2011 7:48:33 AM
                                   The real irony of it all - MartiniMan - 2/23/2011 11:59:44 AM
                                        The real irony of it all - Talullahhound - 2/23/2011 5:14:10 PM
                                             The real irony of it all - MartiniMan - 2/23/2011 5:19:56 PM
                                                  The real irony of it all - Talullahhound - 2/23/2011 5:30:54 PM
                                                       The real irony of it all - MartiniMan - 2/24/2011 8:42:16 PM
                                                            Christie - Talullahhound - 2/25/2011 11:00:34 AM
                                                                 Christie - MartiniMan - 2/25/2011 12:21:02 PM
                                                                      Christie - water_watcher - 2/25/2011 1:31:18 PM
                                                                      Christie - Talullahhound - 2/25/2011 5:57:31 PM
                                                                 Hound - water_watcher - 2/25/2011 1:32:10 PM
                                             The real irony of it all - water_watcher - 2/23/2011 8:57:59 PM
                                             The real irony of it all - Jim Dandy - 2/24/2011 11:48:48 AM
                                                  The real irony of it all - water_watcher - 2/25/2011 1:28:21 PM
                                                       The real irony of it all - Talullahhound - 2/25/2011 5:51:25 PM
                                                            The real irony of it all - water_watcher - 2/26/2011 8:59:45 AM
                                                                 The real irony of it all - Talullahhound - 2/26/2011 5:09:26 PM
                                                                      The real irony of it all - water_watcher - 2/26/2011 6:51:28 PM
                                                                           The real irony of it all - Talullahhound - 2/26/2011 8:25:26 PM



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