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	Name:	MartiniMan -
	Subject:	and GF
	Date:	11/24/2012 10:52:07 AM

I believe what I believe because it makes sense to me asked on facts, logic and history. Here's one for you Archie, name all the moderate Republicans that won the White House in the last 50 years. Let me list for you the moderates that have lost: Bob Dole, John McCain, GHW Bush, Gerald Ford. So the answer is that other than GHW Bush (who really won on the coattails of Reagan) the only Republicans that win the White House are fiscal and social conservatives, or at least espouse those values and are able to articulate them during the campaign.

But you are making the same mistake that so many do from both parties, read too much into a single election. Just look at how quickly control can change. The last 20 years are a perfect example. What we have today is divided government, Dems control the WH and Senate and the GOP controls more Governorships and state govt. That will shift down the road as it always does and always will. Learning from history Archie and try to control the crowing. It is so unseemly.