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Name:   MartiniMan The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Copperline
Date:   12/30/2012 4:48:57 PM

Maybe a worthwhile exercise to discuss these issues although I am frankly skeptical that the liberals can engage in a reasonable discussion based on facts, logic and reason and put emotion aside.

As for your distrust about corporations, I am not sure why but the good news is that you are rarely forced to do business with one if you don't like them. For example, I don't like the politics of GE's CEO and their reliance on crony capitalism. So I no longer buy their products.

But putting corporations and solving social ills in the same sentence is not a good idea. Corporations exist to produce products and services in order to make a profit, period. They aren't organized or operated to solve social ills. That is the function of our charitable/religious organizations and as a last resort the government. Unfortunately we currently have a govt that is trying to follow the European model and replace these organizations which has been a disaster in Euope and will be here. But what all too often seems to be happening is that distrust of corporations translates into supporting political figures that can't or won't figure out how to not also kill the major job creators, small business.

I started my business 15 years ago and in the last four years I have become convinced that the govt is trying to kill my business. Obamacare is just one of many examples. I have been forced to go to a PEO because I can no longer afford health insurance and cannot hope to maintain compliance without hiring three more overhead positions at least. I actually had one of my Board members who voted for Obama tell me that this act is an existential threat to small business. As I told him, it's too late now. You have no idea how bad it is right now between taxes, fees, regulations, customers that are struggling and want pricing concessions, employees that need more income to pay their own taxes, high fuel prices, etc.
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Copperline - alahusker - 12/29/2012 8:28:36 PM
     Copperline - MrHodja - 12/29/2012 10:05:28 PM
     Copperline - copperline - 12/30/2012 12:40:17 AM
          Copperline - MartiniMan - 12/30/2012 9:41:47 AM
               Copperline - copperline - 12/30/2012 11:21:12 AM
                    Copperline - h_hob - 12/30/2012 1:03:00 PM
                    Copperline - comrade - 12/30/2012 3:11:43 PM
                         Copperline - copperline - 12/30/2012 3:54:35 PM
                              [Message deleted by author] - comrade - 12/30/2012 5:00:42 PM
                              Copperline - comrade - 12/30/2012 5:00:43 PM
                                   Copperline - copperline - 12/30/2012 5:39:54 PM
                                        Copperline - comrade - 12/30/2012 5:58:58 PM
                    Copperline - MartiniMan - 12/30/2012 4:48:57 PM
                    Copperline - alahusker - 12/30/2012 10:42:04 PM
                         Copperline - copperline - 12/31/2012 9:27:00 AM
                              Copperline - comrade - 12/31/2012 9:31:42 AM
     Copperline - alahusker - 12/30/2012 10:31:55 PM
          Copperline - comrade - 12/30/2012 10:49:29 PM
               Copperline - copperline - 12/31/2012 9:39:10 AM
                    Copperline - comrade - 12/31/2012 9:51:24 AM



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