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Lifer
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Lets talk about training.
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1/11/2013 2:22:54 PM
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Copper you make the correct statement that the LEO's are trained as well as can be trained on gun safety, gun use, and control of escalating situations. Lets all jump into our way back machine into the glory days of of the 90's. Three NYPD LEO's confronted a gentlemen named Amadou Bailo Diallo. They confronted him for reasons I can't recall at the moment, but turned out to be misidentification. As Mr. Diallo pulled his wallet out to offer his ID. The 3 NYPD LEO's mistook it for a gun and opened fire on him. They were all 4 in the vestibule of the apartment building of Mr. Diallo. Something like a 10X10 space. The 3 officers fired a total of 41 rounds. Only 19, that's NINETEEN, of the 42 rounds struck the intended target in VERY close quarters. Keep in mind that Mr. Diallo was unarmed. Now the question that I ponder, and asked several LEO's I was acquainted with at the time, is how can they be that bad at marksmanship? You can easily Google Diallo for more details.
Also, what about the LEO that was doing a gun safety class a few years ago and had an accidental discharge in front of the trainee's?
The point being that even proper training is not the be all, end all of a solution. Now yes, I would also encourage more training over less, but psycho's and criminals don't ever seek training, they seek victims, and preferably unarmed victims. Georgia Tech and Atlantic Station in ATL are prime examples. Both border some of the worst ghettos in ATL and both have extremely high crime rates. Neither will state it publicly, but it is a fact. The hood rats walk a few blocks to prey on folks they know are unarmed.
A knee jerk, feel good, grab all the assault weapons is definitely not the answer. The same week as Sandy Hook there were two incidents in China. One used a knife the other a automobile loaded with gasoline and fireworks to attack groups of students. So should we take away all the knives and gas cans too?
Do you know why the recent Oregon mall shooter only had two victims? He was confronted by a citizen with a CC permit. The fellow had drawn down on the shooter from a concealed position and was simply waiting on the 'back line' to be clear before firing, an excellent example of training and common sense. Once the shooter saw he was about to be taken down, he turned his weapon on himself. Never saw that anywhere but FOX News because it doesn't fit the agenda. I totally disagree with your assumptions that the theater shooting would have turned into a 'free for all' if there were more armed folks in that theater. I would wager that his victim count would have been much lower, as any tactician will tell you, the folks in the seats would have a distinct advantage. First it is higher ground and the biggest light source coming from behind would be blinding to the the nutjob standing in front of the lit screen. Also, the folks in the seats would have most likely already adjusted to the low light with their night vision, where as the shooter had left the arena and come back in and would not have adjusted to low light vision for several moments up to several minutes.
My solution would be a simple solution where it is, and rightly so, State's Right issue. If any state chooses to 'ban' any and all weapons, i.e. Illinois/Chicago/D.C., let them do so, but the Constitution absolutely forbids the Federal Government from doing so. Anyone that agrees with them is free to move there. How is that ban in Chicago working out? Over 500 murders last year. Not sure how many by gun but I would guess over 90%. Chicago and Detroit are so bad that the military uses the ER's in those cities as training grounds for surgeons headed to conflict areas.
The solution has to be a social/societal change IMHO, not a legislative one. We have plenty of laws. What we need is fewer lawless citizens. I will NEVER turn my weapons over to anyone and I will consider any attempt to confiscate them robbery and act accordingly.
Just my opinions, I could be wrong.
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