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	Name:	MartiniMan -
	Subject:	Ben Shapiro owns Piers Morgan
	Date:	1/12/2013 10:36:37 AM

Don't take it that way because that is exactly the perspective that people like Piers Morgan want us to have. Did you notice that he often moved the conversation away from the very persuasive points being made by Mr. Shapiro and in the end tried to focus all the discussion on and tried to misrepresent and marginalize him? It is a common ploy and we should not all for it. If you don't agree that a tyrannical government is a legitimate concern that's OK. But that disagreement should not impact your ability to consider and potentially agree with his other points. That is actually the thesis of his book and he is right about the tactics used by the left with arguments that they can't win on the merits. Don't fall for that and don't let people like Piers Morgan succeed.

But if you read what the founding fathers wrote it is clear that they feared a tyrannical government. And as Mr. Shapiro rightly points out history is replete with totalitarian govts that started as a democratically elected one. Hitler was elected. Mousillini was elected. Chavez was elected. Achmidinijad was elected. You can see we have lots of recent history that fits that mold.

While I completely agree that the chances of this in the US are incredibly remote and one reason is an armed populace. But as George Santayana put it so well, "Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it". I don't lay awake at night worrying about this but I respect the possibility enough that I see the 2nd Amendment as essential to ensuring that it never happens here. The more you read history (which I do voraciously) the more you realize there is nothinewes new under the sun and the more you respect the wisdom of those that realize that technology may change and progress may be made, but fundamental human nature remains. We just repeat our mistakes, societies go in cycles, countries rise to dominance and then fade.....but to think that somehow we are immune to it is our greatest danger.