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	Name:	architect -
	Subject:	Obama Care...get real
	Date:	8/17/2013 1:30:43 PM (updated 8/17/2013 1:36:04 PM)

It is amazing to listen to these claims that all the "untruths" about Obamacare come from the pro side. Get real...remember the "death panels", the assertion the IRS can send you to jail for not "enrolling" and the claim a few weeks ago from one state insurance commissioner that the average premium from his state exchanges were going to be 2/3ds higher than the average being paid by employers when actually if the "platinum" offering which was expected to be taken by only a tiny minority was not included the premium for apple to apple coverage plans was actually slightly less than the employer plans. Now comes the BS from Faux News and Ted Cruz that congressional staffers are exempt from the law. The "truth" is they were the only group currently covered by their employer to be specifically kicked out of the employer plans and into the exchanges as part of the language of the law. This was at the insistence of Senator Grassley and his Republican cohorts to make the law more "fair". Obviously the staffers were not happy but requested that if they had to give up their partially employer paid insurance they should at least be reimbursed for the amount originally paid by their employer (US taxpayers). The "exemption" Cruz is crowing (lying) about is not anybody saying congressional staffers are exempted from the requirement from the law as approved. They do have go to the exchanges; but that they will, as recently declared by an Administrative Law Court decision, continue to receive a tax payer subsidy to help pay for the private plan they select from the exchange.

If you hate Obamacare feel free to Bash it, but bash it with facts not BS and lies. There are more than enough lies from both sides of the aisle to go around...on Obamacare and pretty much any issue. to