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Name:   Lifer The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Talk about headscratchers
Date:   8/22/2013 2:12:00 PM (updated 8/22/2013 2:30:37 PM)

How is it you get a 'deeded' lot when the person leasing the lot form the owners has no deed to transfer?  You got some splainin to do on that one.  For me anyway.  As I understand it the issue is with the septic for the marina, not the homes.  Maybe she was supposed to keep copies of all the certifications for the sites as the systems were put in place and failed to do so.  I don't know and neither does anyone who has commented so far.

As for APCO's "moral obligations" they have none to any of the sub-lessors.  They have an agreement with one party.  That party has agreements with you and the others.  If that party failed to meet her obligations to APCO then you all should, as the headline stated, "read your contracts' to determine what recourse you may or may not have.  To stand up and proclaim APCO as the boogeyman is irresponsible and ill informed.  As I understand it, she is to vacate by 1-1-14 but APCO has generously provided the sub-lessors with an additional six months.  They are legally not required to do that, that comes from a "moral' position on their part.  As for notification, they had no legal requirement to notify you or others about negotiations between them and their lessor.  In fact, they may be legally prohibited from doing so due to privacy laws, not a lawyer and don't know.  It seems to me that APCO has provided you time to attempt rectification, if any exist.  Get together and form an HOA stat! Then work as one.

Now about the APCO lessor.  Why would any of you even want to include "the old lady" in any sort of fix.  It seems to me she has proven to be too irresponsible to continue as steward of such prime real estate.  If it is just the marina itself that has the septic issue why not shut it down and seek direct leases with the landowner, APCO.  Do you feel like you can't live without the marina/store?  If so, why?  If it is the source of the problem why not eliminate it?  That may be all APCO wants, is the marina gone or brought up to code, and this is their best recourse to do make that happen.  Why spend what will surely be in the 6 figures if not 7, just to save her?

AS for your berating of APCO and their lack of 'morals" I take issue with that.  APCO goes to great lengths to avoid public controversy whenever they can.  Do you think they were just looking for a fight and chose you guys?  Bottom line is it is ultimately their land and they can do with it as they desire.  You most certainly need re-evaluate this statement:

"Just think about this prime piece of real estate....APCO gets their
hands on it....wonder what they will do with it....guessing they will
sell it for development....wonder what RL does with alot of land around
the lake"

APCO  "got their hands on it" sometime around 1923 or
so.  It belongs to them.  Seems to me like you need to take a long look
at your situation and consider a not so confrontational approach.

Now all that being said, I am truly sorry any of you are going through this.  I have a friend that is front and center in this.  Great family.  It sucks, but whining want help.  Fight, but you better do it with one voice, else you get nowhere.  APCO is not going to entertain dozens of individual complaints, pleas, lawsuits etc.  I don't know if you read my first post in this thread before I had to delete it.  It stated my prediction that Russell will eventually get the land and build another bridge cutting off 45 minutes travel time to their premiere developments from points east.  I really feel your pain, but jumping on a high horse claiming morale superiority will get you nowhere. 

I'll climb off my soapbox now and get prepared for the cr@p prolly coming my way,  But that's the way I see things.

Jest sayin'.
Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
update on pleasure point - cartdude - 8/21/2013 12:18:06 PM
     WOW.... - crappyattitude - 8/21/2013 12:41:45 PM
     [Message deleted by author] - Lifer - 8/21/2013 1:58:45 PM
     this sux - Mike Hunt - 8/21/2013 2:08:42 PM
          this sux - Summer Lover - 8/21/2013 2:34:55 PM
     update on pleasure point - Ulysses E. McGill - 8/21/2013 2:22:36 PM
     Just don't know what to say..... - CAT BOAT - 8/21/2013 2:50:54 PM
     AP takeover - LakeLover - 8/21/2013 2:54:24 PM
          AP takeover - wix - 8/21/2013 3:05:58 PM
     [Message deleted by author] - Lifer - 8/21/2013 2:55:55 PM
     update on pleasure point - Crimson4Lif - 8/21/2013 3:26:28 PM
          update on pleasure point - cartdude - 8/21/2013 4:20:43 PM
               update on pleasure point - Ulysses E. McGill - 8/21/2013 4:33:50 PM
          Crimson - George - 8/21/2013 6:09:05 PM
     smells on pleasure point - Shortbus - 8/21/2013 4:42:53 PM
          smells on pleasure point - Crimson4Lif - 8/21/2013 5:57:06 PM
               Ok..... - CAT BOAT - 8/21/2013 6:01:27 PM
                    Ok..... - Mike Hunt - 8/21/2013 8:40:41 PM
               Read the contracts - Mike Hunt - 8/21/2013 8:43:43 PM
                    Read the contracts - cartdude - 8/21/2013 9:04:52 PM
                         Read the contracts - Mike Hunt - 8/21/2013 10:52:41 PM
                              Read the contracts - 10toLife - 8/22/2013 7:59:55 AM
                                   Read the contracts - Mike Hunt - 8/22/2013 8:49:25 AM
                                        Read the contracts - PTClakefan - 8/22/2013 9:13:16 AM
                                   Read the contracts - PTClakefan - 8/22/2013 9:05:34 AM
                                        Read the contracts - cartdude - 8/22/2013 12:31:48 PM
                                             Read the contracts - Crimson4Lif - 8/22/2013 1:13:07 PM
                                                  Talk about headscratchers - Lifer - 8/22/2013 2:12:00 PM
                                                       Lifer gets it. - Mike Hunt - 8/22/2013 3:47:43 PM
                                                            I sure do. - Lifer - 8/22/2013 4:56:16 PM
                                                                 I sure do. - 10toLife - 8/22/2013 9:56:51 PM
                                                                      look on the brite side - spyke420 - 8/24/2013 12:27:09 PM
                                                       Talk about headscratchers - Crimson4Lif - 8/22/2013 5:36:07 PM
                                                            Talk about headscratchers - DJ - 8/22/2013 6:11:55 PM
                                                                 Another good link - DJ - 8/22/2013 6:14:53 PM
                                                                      Another good link - DJ - 8/22/2013 6:22:41 PM
                                                            Talk about headscratchers - cartdude - 8/22/2013 7:38:43 PM
                                                            Talk about headscratchers - Lifer - 8/22/2013 7:54:29 PM
                                             Read the contracts - DJ - 8/22/2013 1:59:37 PM


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