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Name:   Lifer The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   I sure do.
Date:   8/22/2013 4:56:16 PM

In regards to Bay Pine, a former owner Ann B., owned the Marina.  She took great liberties with the adjoining land for MANY years.  The adjoining land belongs to APCO.  I can't say with 100% certainty, but have been told by a couple of folks that live in that slough, that she never officially leased it from APCO.  What she did do was rent out the waterfront portion to anybody that would pay her.  It was populated with pop-up campers, small trailers, tents, etc. Some of those places became 'permanent' even going so far as to build piers (mostly floaters built on chemical barrels).  The folks that had the RV's and such even went so far as to put in "septic systems".  These septic systems were comprised of either a pipe buried in the ground  and into the lake, or the upgraded system of a pipe running into a 55 gallon drum buried in the ground.  On hot summer days the whole end of the slough stunk of sewage. It only got cleaned up after she sold the place I believe.

This I know for a fact as it was related to me by one of the parties involved.  The surrounding land owners tried for years to have something done about it, but APCO being APCO chose to stay out of the controversy and wouldn't do anything about it. Nor would the Health Dept, or ADEM or anybody else they tried to get to enforce laws and codes.  It was a mess.  All the neighbors hated her before it was over.  I know one who told me he would drive out of the slough, right past BP and go to Pleasure Point or Wind Creek to buy gas.

That's ancient history.  What is going on now is the Marina has no septic tank, well I think there is one in place from days of yore but has been condemned.  The current owners have a legitimate lease on the APCO property next door and have storage on top of the hill, but for whatever reason they can't put a septic system on that land.  The waterfront land won't perch anyway so it requires an engineered system that pumps up the hill.  I happen to know the details of what they have been through trying to get a system approved and each time they think they have it settled something else pops up.  To put it mildly, it has been a bureaucratic nightmare.  I am not going to share all the details as I don't know how public the knowledge is.  It was shared with me very recently by the current owners.  They are currently  using the nicest Porta Potty I have ever seen, but the key to success lies in the ability to serve food, but that can't happen until the septic is in place. That revenue stream is vital.  You can't pay the bills selling gas, beer and ice.  There is also a pretty nice apartment on the property but it can't be rented either until septic is in place.  I encourage everybody to trade there.  They are great local folks trying to make a living in a very tough economy.  I would encourage them to use this forum more to self promote.  It seem to work well for a few others.

And that's the rest of the story.
Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
update on pleasure point - cartdude - 8/21/2013 12:18:06 PM
     WOW.... - crappyattitude - 8/21/2013 12:41:45 PM
     [Message deleted by author] - Lifer - 8/21/2013 1:58:45 PM
     this sux - Mike Hunt - 8/21/2013 2:08:42 PM
          this sux - Summer Lover - 8/21/2013 2:34:55 PM
     update on pleasure point - Ulysses E. McGill - 8/21/2013 2:22:36 PM
     Just don't know what to say..... - CAT BOAT - 8/21/2013 2:50:54 PM
     AP takeover - LakeLover - 8/21/2013 2:54:24 PM
          AP takeover - wix - 8/21/2013 3:05:58 PM
     [Message deleted by author] - Lifer - 8/21/2013 2:55:55 PM
     update on pleasure point - Crimson4Lif - 8/21/2013 3:26:28 PM
          update on pleasure point - cartdude - 8/21/2013 4:20:43 PM
               update on pleasure point - Ulysses E. McGill - 8/21/2013 4:33:50 PM
          Crimson - George - 8/21/2013 6:09:05 PM
     smells on pleasure point - Shortbus - 8/21/2013 4:42:53 PM
          smells on pleasure point - Crimson4Lif - 8/21/2013 5:57:06 PM
               Ok..... - CAT BOAT - 8/21/2013 6:01:27 PM
                    Ok..... - Mike Hunt - 8/21/2013 8:40:41 PM
               Read the contracts - Mike Hunt - 8/21/2013 8:43:43 PM
                    Read the contracts - cartdude - 8/21/2013 9:04:52 PM
                         Read the contracts - Mike Hunt - 8/21/2013 10:52:41 PM
                              Read the contracts - 10toLife - 8/22/2013 7:59:55 AM
                                   Read the contracts - Mike Hunt - 8/22/2013 8:49:25 AM
                                        Read the contracts - PTClakefan - 8/22/2013 9:13:16 AM
                                   Read the contracts - PTClakefan - 8/22/2013 9:05:34 AM
                                        Read the contracts - cartdude - 8/22/2013 12:31:48 PM
                                             Read the contracts - Crimson4Lif - 8/22/2013 1:13:07 PM
                                                  Talk about headscratchers - Lifer - 8/22/2013 2:12:00 PM
                                                       Lifer gets it. - Mike Hunt - 8/22/2013 3:47:43 PM
                                                            I sure do. - Lifer - 8/22/2013 4:56:16 PM
                                                                 I sure do. - 10toLife - 8/22/2013 9:56:51 PM
                                                                      look on the brite side - spyke420 - 8/24/2013 12:27:09 PM
                                                       Talk about headscratchers - Crimson4Lif - 8/22/2013 5:36:07 PM
                                                            Talk about headscratchers - DJ - 8/22/2013 6:11:55 PM
                                                                 Another good link - DJ - 8/22/2013 6:14:53 PM
                                                                      Another good link - DJ - 8/22/2013 6:22:41 PM
                                                            Talk about headscratchers - cartdude - 8/22/2013 7:38:43 PM
                                                            Talk about headscratchers - Lifer - 8/22/2013 7:54:29 PM
                                             Read the contracts - DJ - 8/22/2013 1:59:37 PM



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