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Name:   Talullahhound The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Facts.....stubborn things
Date:   11/24/2015 10:34:08 AM (updated 11/24/2015 10:39:29 AM)

There are things I know that I am unwilling to discuss on a public forum.  Sorry.

Suffice to say that there was so much frustration that the CIA/DIA intel did not support the intent with regard to Iraq, that Doug Freith, the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, created his own intelligence cell so that would produce the intel reports that would support their intent.  I know this, because a former colleague of mine was the head of that cell.  And that is a FACT.  People talk and then there is the matter of how and why this particular person was chosen for that job.  Not willing to discuss it here, but the individual involved had an interesting background and had specific reasons for accepting the job.  How do I know this?  I knew the person, was quite familiar with his work and his personality and previous actions.  But I'm not getting into that in a public forum.

I'd like to remind MM that commission reports are often "adjusted" before they are released.  This is no different than his claim that the unemployment numbers are manipulated.  This is a FACT.  There are times when certain inconvenient facts are eliminated from a report before it is ever finalized. 

MM seems to believe that if he sticks to conservative publications, these only produce FACTS.  Not true.  Conservative publications are no more likely to produce facts than liberal ones.  Now if you told me you haaccess to a draft commission report, before it was circulated for comments and before it was approved for release, then we'd have something to talk about. 

Yes, at one time Saddam Hussein did use chemical weapons against his own people.  And there are articles around that suggest there were some trace elements of chemical weapsons found in Iraq... however, these were not in the quantity that would lead anyone to conclude that he was producing weapons of mass destruction for sale to terrorists as the Bush Administration claimed the intelligence indicated.  Don't you think that if there were significant quantities of chemical elements used to produce WMD, that the Bush Administration would have released that information to support their cause?  They did not find any stockpiles.  They did not find the facilities.  And that is a FACT.

Now MM is going to accuse me of intellectual dishonesty and no doubt someone will jump in with comments about my experience.  I'm sorry, I didn't ask to know these things, but I do.  And that is all I am willing to say on the subject. 

 

 

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Trump Continues to Rise in the Polls, as Carson - Talullahhound - 11/23/2015 11:48:05 AM
     Trump Continues to Rise in the Polls, as Carson - MartiniMan - 11/23/2015 11:59:35 AM
     Trump Continues to Rise in the Polls, as Carson - lakngulf - 11/23/2015 5:26:45 PM
          Trump Continues to Rise in the Polls, as Carson - Talullahhound - 11/23/2015 5:38:44 PM
               I have no qualms at calling MM what he is - architect - 11/23/2015 7:25:33 PM
               Trump Continues to Rise in the Polls, as Carson - alahusker - 11/23/2015 9:43:10 PM
                    What is the truth...indeed - architect - 11/23/2015 10:29:28 PM
                         What is the truth...indeed - Shortbus - 11/24/2015 7:47:25 AM
                              [Message deleted by author] - architect - 11/24/2015 8:07:12 AM
                                   What is the truth...indeed - architect - 11/24/2015 8:19:23 AM
                    Facts.....stubborn things - MartiniMan - 11/24/2015 8:58:46 AM
                         Facts.....stubborn things - Talullahhound - 11/24/2015 10:34:08 AM
                              Facts.....stubborn things - MartiniMan - 11/24/2015 11:20:21 AM
                                   Facts.....stubborn things - MrHodja - 11/24/2015 12:29:46 PM
                                        Facts.....stubborn things - Shortbus - 11/24/2015 1:10:23 PM
                                        You would have to believe in a conspiracy - MartiniMan - 11/24/2015 1:53:39 PM
                                             You would have to believe in a conspiracy - MrHodja - 11/24/2015 4:49:19 PM
                                                  Really? - MartiniMan - 11/24/2015 5:03:34 PM
                                                       Really? - MrHodja - 11/24/2015 5:19:26 PM
                                                            Really? - Talullahhound - 11/24/2015 5:45:21 PM
                                                            Really? - MartiniMan - 11/24/2015 6:34:13 PM
                                                                 Really? - MrHodja - 11/24/2015 7:00:05 PM
                                                                      Really? - MartiniMan - 11/25/2015 8:25:26 AM
               So the bipartisan commission was wrong? - MartiniMan - 11/24/2015 8:54:37 AM
                    So the bipartisan commission was wrong? - Talullahhound - 11/24/2015 10:53:34 AM
                         So the bipartisan commission was wrong? - MartiniMan - 11/24/2015 11:10:40 AM
                              So the bipartisan commission was wrong? - Talullahhound - 11/24/2015 3:18:54 PM
                                   And yet you keep responding - MartiniMan - 11/24/2015 3:59:34 PM
                                        And yet you keep responding - MrHodja - 11/24/2015 5:09:03 PM
                                             And yet you keep responding - Talullahhound - 11/24/2015 5:52:59 PM
                                                  Show me one fact you provided...hint, there none - MartiniMan - 11/24/2015 6:21:16 PM
                                                       Show me one fact you provided...hint, there none - Talullahhound - 11/24/2015 6:31:55 PM
                                                            Officially let go - MartiniMan - 11/24/2015 6:44:51 PM
                                             And yet you keep responding - MartiniMan - 11/24/2015 6:37:38 PM
                                                  And yet you keep responding - MrHodja - 11/24/2015 7:06:34 PM
                                                       And yet you keep responding - Talullahhound - 11/24/2015 9:06:32 PM
                                                            And yet you keep responding - MrHodja - 11/24/2015 11:11:49 PM
                                                                 Hodja - Talullahhound - 11/25/2015 7:32:48 AM
     Speaking of Trump... - architect - 11/24/2015 8:25:31 AM
          Speaking of Trump... - Talullahhound - 11/24/2015 10:59:15 AM



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