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Name:   phil The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Saul Alinsky
Date:   3/2/2017 9:03:30 AM (updated 3/2/2017 9:15:31 AM)

The other 8 while attributed to Alisnky is not his, while the image that shortbus posted claims Alisnky - it is Cloward-Piven.  Alinsky and Cloward Piven I am sure both are well known in the democrat party.  Hillary herself did a thesis in collage on the Alinksy model if NBC is to be belived in 2007.

 

I believe most people can make their minds up in regards to which of the Alinsky / Cloward Piven rules / guidelines that Obama has used, and you can make your mind up as to who else may follow which rules.

 

 

Alinsky’s 12 Rules:

1. Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have. Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.

2. Never go outside the expertise of your people. It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.

3. Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.

4. Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.

5. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

6. A good tactic is one your people enjoy. They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.

7. A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Don’t become old news.

8. Keep the pressure on. Never let up. Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.

9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.

10. If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive. Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

11. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.

12. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

 

The Cloward-Piven Strategy:

There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state.

The first is the most important.

 

  1. Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people.
  2. Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
  3. Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
  4. Gun Control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state
  5. Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives. (Food, Housing, and Income)
  6. Education – Take control of what people read and listen to us“ take control of what children learn in school.
  7. Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.
  8. Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
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Saul Alinsky - Buteye - 3/1/2017 6:06:31 PM
     Saul Alinsky - GoneFishin - 3/1/2017 7:43:09 PM
          Saul Alinsky - Buteye - 3/1/2017 8:35:14 PM
               Saul Alinsky - GoneFishin - 3/2/2017 1:05:59 AM
                    Saul Alinsky - lakngulf - 3/2/2017 8:56:05 AM
                    Saul Alinsky - Buteye - 3/2/2017 11:19:10 AM
     Saul Alinsky - phil - 3/2/2017 9:03:30 AM
          Saul Alinsky - lakngulf - 3/2/2017 9:14:38 AM
               Saul Alinsky - phil - 3/2/2017 9:24:34 AM
                    Saul Alinsky - Buteye - 3/2/2017 11:34:00 AM
                         Saul Alinsky - phil - 3/2/2017 12:50:23 PM
                              Saul Alinsky - Buteye - 3/2/2017 10:47:50 PM
                                   Saul Alinsky - phil - 3/3/2017 9:21:02 AM



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