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Name:   copperline The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Final summary
Date:   6/27/2017 11:56:40 AM

 

The overwhelming majority of readers who post on this Forum think that Healthcare is a product, and there is no Right to medical care at all.   Healthcare should be a commodity, and whether it is available should be solely determined by ability to pay fully for it.     If you can’t afford to pay for it, you don’t deserve to have it.  

Doctors who tell us that the cuts will adversely affect vulnerable people are greedy money-grubbers who are really worried about protecting their incomes while they perform abortions on the side.   What is needed for the health care system to work would be for doctors to simply reduce their salaries.   Hospitals can easily treat uninsured people and absorb those financial losses, discharge patients as soon as possible and readmit them briefly only if they are in a life-threatening crisis.  Post-hospital care should be available only on a pay-as-you-go basis.  No one has ever died from lack of medical care in this country anyway.   Untreated medical conditions do not add to the national healthcare costs, just the opposite.   If untreated medical conditions are left to fester, mother nature will keep our costs down if you give her time.    It’s our efforts to pay for that care that is the problem.   We are just prolonging the inevitable, throwing good money after bad.

People who do not have healthcare insurance should simply solve their problems by getting a job that pays well and provides a good insurance plan.  If unemployment is high in their hometown, they can easily move away and start over somewhere else.    If you are sick, disabled, or terminated from your job then you should just tough it out.    If that is the case, those people should contact their minister who will help them with cash assistance or direct them to ample free care available through charities.   There are so many charities and well-funded church bank accounts  that these people will find all the help they need at no cost to anyone  except fellow congregants.   If local churches and charities are not able to cover the cost of your medical care, then you should accept that in this country we expect people to fend for themselves or die quietly.   Or pick a different church.

Nursinghome patients are frequently scamming the system by faking poverty to get Medicaid, and many of them are millionaires anyway.  There are about 27,000 skilled nursing home beds in Alabama, 65% of those are paid for by Medicaid.   This forum is outraged that so many millionaires are draining our wallets with their fraudulent scheming.   Once discharged, they can return to their homes where wealthy family members and servants will continue their care.

If you are disabled, then we need to investigate your case carefully so that in the event that your disability spontaneously resolves, then you can get your first job and get off our backs.   Chances are they are scamming the system anyway by secretly working in order to avoid paying taxes.

In our search for welfare cheats and scammers, we will probably have to also condemn truly needy people who will be axed from program roles.   We sort of regret this, but this is simply the price they have to pay.    We resented giving them help that they probably didn’t deserve anyway.   At any rate, our most important goal is to reduce our taxes (this includes all of us who rake in more than $250,000 per year), not to create a healthcare system for the slovenly and undeserving.

In the end, large cuts in funding like the GOP Healthcare bill will have no bad effects on the truly needy while those cuts will ease the burdens of people who struggle to get by on meager annual incomes north of $250,000.   Those cuts will also serve to protect the entitlement programs considered  important, like the ones we are signed up for and would not want reduced.

Liberals are wacko do-gooders who have irrational beliefs and fail to understand the necessity of facing the grim realities of the modern age.   We cannot afford to care for too many disabled & sick people, and it is best to let nature take it's course with all of them lest the burdens of doing so wreck our nation.   Liberals are crazy to think that this is unfair, or that sick/disabled people and their families won’t just get jobs when forced to do so.    Making assistance available encourages people to pretend they are sick & disabled on a huge scale.

So the majority of people willing to post on this forum are in favor of a national healthcare policy that boils down to survival of the fittest and natural selection.   If you can’t afford healthcare then in short order you, your family and children will be eliminated from the gene pool anyway….

Problem solved, that was easy.   Now let’s all have a mint julip.

Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
Insurance for Everyone - Buteye - 6/25/2017 12:23:39 AM
     Insurance for Everyone - copperline - 6/25/2017 10:12:23 AM
          Insurance for Everyone - realfast64 - 6/25/2017 12:45:10 PM
          Insurance for Everyone - realfast64 - 6/25/2017 12:45:12 PM
          Insurance for Everyone - wix - 6/25/2017 3:24:32 PM
               Insurance for Everyone - Lifer - 6/25/2017 3:44:15 PM
                    Insurance for Everyone - Shortbus - 6/25/2017 6:04:41 PM
                         Insurance for Everyone - wix - 6/25/2017 7:26:14 PM
          Insurance for Everyone - phil - 6/26/2017 10:23:26 AM
     Insurance for Everyone - Talullahhound - 6/25/2017 10:32:11 PM
          Insurance for Everyone - copperline - 6/25/2017 11:38:14 PM
               Insurance for Everyone - Buteye - 6/26/2017 1:15:52 AM
               OK copperline, you blabbering idiot - Lifer - 6/26/2017 7:18:22 AM
               CopperFREE & Peeelosiuu - wix - 6/26/2017 7:35:06 AM
          Insurance for Everyone - Buteye - 6/26/2017 1:02:41 AM
     Insurance for Everyone - copperline - 6/26/2017 9:24:06 AM
          COPPER-giveaway - wix - 6/26/2017 9:38:07 AM
          Insurance for Everyone - Buteye - 6/26/2017 12:19:46 PM
               Insurance for Everyone - Talullahhound - 6/26/2017 2:04:55 PM
                    Insurance for Everyone - copperline - 6/26/2017 3:15:37 PM
                         Entitlement..????... - wix - 6/26/2017 3:26:36 PM
                         Insurance for Everyone - Talullahhound - 6/26/2017 8:49:34 PM
                              Nursing Home Medicaid - wix - 6/26/2017 10:13:05 PM
                              Hey Hound - GoneFishin - 6/26/2017 10:16:06 PM
     Insurance for Everyone - copperline - 6/26/2017 2:56:57 PM
          COPPER-dim - wix - 6/26/2017 3:22:50 PM
               COPPER-dim - phil - 6/26/2017 6:07:10 PM
                    COPPER-dim - copperline - 6/26/2017 7:43:17 PM
                    well, - copperline - 6/26/2017 7:46:35 PM
                         DIM-copper - wix - 6/26/2017 9:58:42 PM
                         well, - phil - 6/27/2017 8:54:51 AM
          Insurance for Everyone - Buteye - 6/26/2017 11:50:46 PM
               Poverty of convenience - wix - 6/27/2017 8:33:17 AM
     Final summary - copperline - 6/27/2017 11:56:40 AM
          Final summary - phil - 6/27/2017 12:27:43 PM
          Final summary - phil - 6/27/2017 12:27:43 PM
               Final summary - Buteye - 6/27/2017 12:36:36 PM
          Final summary - Buteye - 6/27/2017 12:34:08 PM



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