Name:   Talullahhound - Subject:   The rise of the beta male sexual harasser Date:   11/22/2017 4:05:00 PM

I don't think that is necessarily true about women and feminism.  The vast majority of women, regardless of their politics, do not want to be groped, pinched or fondled by a man they hardly know.  First of all, it is a violation of their personal space.  Then there is the thought of "what have I done to bring this on"?  Most women try to either pass it off as a joke or take some kind of avoidence measure.  But in the back of their minds, it is always will I be hurt, i.e. raped or beaten".  And will he be posting it on social media, or will he tell his friends and have a good laugh about it.  Despite a desire for equal pay for equal work, and a recongition of women as human beings that deserve to be recognized and respected.  

Now, there are some women that secretly love this kind of advance - because the man is famous, wealthy, in a position of power, becasue they see an opportunity to use it to their advantage.  My contention is that infamous tape of Trump's, the point that when you are famous, wealthy or powerful, you can go up to some women with roguish behavior and they won't object.  His words were crude, but the point he makes is valid.  

A lot of women who were teens in the 70's and 80's were raised by their mothers with the idea that you need to "catch" a man who will be a good provider for you and your children.  There was a period where a lot more women were going to college, not for the education, but to meet eligible men.  So if what appeared to be a nice, succesful man paid attention to you, you might not expose him as the creep that he turned out to be.  There are some times in life when an age difference might not be a barrier.  

I'm not giving men a pass, but societal norms change over a period of time.