Name:   johndoe - Subject:   Nothing debunked whatever Date:   2/18/2019 5:45:29 PM (updated 2/18/2019 5:46:12 PM)

First, if you want to have a shred of credibility, you'll have to name and link your sources. Anyone can make up or copy and paste quotes, and there is no shortage of agenda-driven phony "data."

Second, correlation is exactly what is being discussed here. Nobody has asserted - and hopefully nobody is stupid enough to beleve - that being an undocumented immigrant causes you to commit crimes. Logically, a person here without papers is motivated to keep the lowest profile possibe. Most of them - including the numerous examples in the employ of #45's businesses - are here to earn honest livings and lead quiet lives.

OTOH, being a follower of white supremacist groups, neo-Nazis, KKK, anti-choice extremists, etc., does correlate with the commission of violent crimes. Given the violent rhetoric put forth by these groups - some of it parroted by #45 and members of his administration - a reasonable person will recognize a highly likely, if not rigorously proven, causal link. Other than the attacks on 9/11/2001, the worst terrorist act committed on US soil was perpetrated by a military veteran - Timothy McVeigh - who was a "sovereign citizen (look it up)." In the aftermath, a number of members of that group publicly praised the atrocity he committed.

Anyone who is truly concerned about groups in this country that are most likely to commit murders will focus on the "alt right" and fellow travellers. Undocumented immigrants are far less dangerous than these groups.