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Name:   johndoe The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Whataboutism
Date:   2/20/2019 10:30:46 AM

I directly addressed your stupid meme: it is false. The Steele "dossier" was the result of research initially funded by a Republican organization and only later by Democrats. The investiigation Steele conducted was legal and in no way a result of or connected to interference by a foreign government in our election. Furthermore - this is important, so try to pay attention - nothing in that report has been disproved. There are a few salacious allegations that have not been proven, but the most disturbing parts of the report have been borne out by other investigators.

 

OTOH, the information about the Trump campaing that is publicly known constitutes strong circumstantial evidence of conspiracy with a foreign power. To wit:

1. Jeff Sessions perjured himself in testimony to Congress about contacts with representatives of the Russian government.

2. Trump publicly requested that Russia engage in an act of espionage against the US.

3. Mike Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about discussions he had with Sergei Kislyak, the same Russian Sessions lied about.

4. Trump Jr., Manafort, and Kushner met with an emissary of the Russian government in Trump Tower after an email exchange in which it was openly disclosed that the Russian government wanted to help Trump win the election.

5. When confronted about the meeting, everyone - including Trump - lied and then changed their lies when they were discovered.

6. Trump admitted in a televised interview with Lester Holt that he had fired James Comey because of the Russia investigation.

7. As POTUS, Individual 1 met with Russian spies in the Oval office, excluded the US press but allowed the Russian media, and disclosed classified information to those spies.

 

There is much more evidence already in the public domain, but the above items are compelling by themselves. You can bet your a$$ that Mueller has much more that has yet to see the light of day. The court filings in the cases of Flynn, Manafort, Cohen, Stone, et al contain bits and pieces of the story.

If Individual 1 is innocent, why does he feel such a strong need to lie continuously and to obstruct the investigation? That is not the behavior of an innocent man.

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     collusion ?? - Buteye - 2/18/2019 1:16:35 PM
          collusion ?? - GoneFishin - 2/18/2019 2:14:05 PM
               collusion ?? - Buteye - 2/18/2019 2:53:12 PM
     collusion ?? - johndoe - 2/19/2019 5:28:23 PM
          collusion ?? - phil - 2/20/2019 8:32:41 AM
          collusion ?? - phil - 2/20/2019 8:33:39 AM
          collusion ?? - phil - 2/20/2019 8:34:41 AM
          collusion ?? - phil - 2/20/2019 8:37:55 AM
          collusion ?? - phil - 2/20/2019 8:38:25 AM
          collusion ?? - phil - 2/20/2019 8:38:38 AM
               Whataboutism - johndoe - 2/20/2019 8:53:01 AM
                    Whataboutism - phil - 2/20/2019 8:58:05 AM
                         Whataboutism - johndoe - 2/20/2019 10:30:46 AM
                              Whataboutism - phil - 2/20/2019 10:45:56 AM
                                   Whataboutism - johndoe - 2/20/2019 12:25:44 PM
                                        Whataboutism - phil - 2/20/2019 12:53:30 PM
                                             Whataboutism - johndoe - 2/20/2019 1:55:29 PM
                                                  Whataboutism - phil - 2/20/2019 2:16:10 PM
                              Whataboutism - phil - 2/20/2019 2:42:12 PM
          collusion ?? - phil - 2/20/2019 9:03:52 AM



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