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Name:   MartiniMan The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   I don't think you know what you're talking about
Date:   6/12/2019 10:39:05 PM

Here is the actual dictionary definition of socialism, of which you are apparently totally ignorant:

socialism

  • n.
    Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
  • n.
    The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which the means of production are collectively owned but a completely classless society has not yet been achieved.

I know this may be hard for you to get, but social programs are not socialism.  Everyone except anarchists and a few fringe libertarians beleive that government has a proper role in society.  We also understand the need for taxes to pay for those things that are the proper role of government.  National defense, infrastructure, police and firefighting, etc. all fall within this proper role.  None of these things are socialism.  

As for your list, here are my thoughts:

1. Is graduated income tax evil?  Not socialism because it has nothing to do with collective ownership of the means of production.  Evil only when it is used to punish the productive in order to buy votes.  You know, rob Peter to pay Paul and you can count on the support of Paul.

2. Is Social Security evil?  Likewise not socialism.  And not evil per se, just a ponzi scheme scam that has robbed hundreds of millions of Americans of any hope for a secure retirement.

3. Is Medicare evil?  Likewise not socialism, but it is going bankrupt.  Gov't at its finest.

4. Are public schools evil?  Not socialism either and the proper role of local government, with the emphasis on "local".

5. Are public firefighting organizations evil?  Nope, but they aren't socialism and are the proper role of local government.

6. Are public roads evil?  Nope, not evil or socialism and clearly the proper role of government.  I would also point out that the vast majority of public roads are built by private companies under contract to the local, state of Federal government.  You're welcome.

7. Are national parks evil?  Not in the least and not socialism either.

It's really humiliating to see how ignorant left wing nuts are about these things.  It would be funny if you weren't able to vote.  Educate yourself about what socialism is, how many tens of millions to hundreds of millions died in the 20th century in the pursuit of socialist utopia.....you know, all for the benefit of the masses.....well, except the ones that died in the gulags and the killing fields.  And educate yourself on the so-called socialist utopias in Europe that we hear so much about.  What you will find are capitalist economies where private ownership of the means of production are protected  but come with high taxation and large social program spending.  All on the backs of privately owned means of production.  I suggest you request a refund from your gov't school.....they have failed you miserably.

Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
Bernie Says - Talullahhound - 6/11/2019 8:23:55 PM
     Buying votes is expensive - MartiniMan - 6/11/2019 9:30:57 PM
          Buying votes is expensive - GoneFishin - 6/11/2019 10:33:40 PM
               Buying votes is expensive - MartiniMan - 6/11/2019 11:41:30 PM
                    Buying votes is expensive - GoneFishin - 6/12/2019 12:08:18 AM
               Buying votes is expensive - Buteye - 6/12/2019 12:07:17 AM
               Buying votes is expensive - phil - 6/12/2019 8:38:57 AM
                    Next Election - Old Diver - 6/12/2019 10:20:09 AM
                         Next Election - Talullahhound - 6/12/2019 11:30:46 AM
                              Next Election - phil - 6/12/2019 12:47:39 PM
                         Next Election - phil - 6/12/2019 12:46:06 PM
                         Next Election - Shortbus - 6/12/2019 7:16:29 PM
               It's long past time to re-center - johndoe - 6/12/2019 4:32:14 PM
                    It's long past time to re-center - Talullahhound - 6/12/2019 7:46:57 PM
                    jd-COPY AND PASTE - wix - 6/12/2019 9:18:16 PM
                    I don't think you know what you're talking about - MartiniMan - 6/12/2019 10:39:05 PM
                         Excellent, wish he’d read it! - wix - 6/12/2019 10:58:28 PM
                         You don't think, period. - johndoe - 6/13/2019 1:20:12 AM
                              You don't think, period. - Shortbus - 6/13/2019 1:38:43 AM
                                   You don't think, period. - Shortbus - 6/20/2019 8:56:17 AM
                                        You don't think, period. - Shortbus - 6/20/2019 4:00:57 PM
                                             You don't think, period. - Buteye - 6/21/2019 12:47:51 AM
                                                  You don't think, period. - phil - 6/24/2019 8:38:27 AM
                                                       You don't think, period. - Buteye - 6/24/2019 3:22:33 PM
                              Doubling down on dumb? Tsk, tsk.... - MartiniMan - 6/13/2019 8:33:46 AM
     Bernie Says - johndoe - 6/29/2019 9:00:52 AM



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