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Name:   phil The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Always Best To Be Calm and Wait For The Facts
Date:   8/27/2020 8:24:24 AM

Article from mid 2016 pre Trump so this would have been during the Obammy Admin.  Your one bullet should do it, is not realistic in a close quarters gunfight when your life is on the line.  There have been many reports of people who are on drugs who do not even slow down when tasered or hit with bullets - you keep firing till the threat is no longer a threat.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-trained-shoot-wound-experts/story?id=40402933

 

Police are trained to stop dangerous, life-threatening or murderous behavior, Kelly said. This holds true for all police departments across the country, he added.

Anytime a firearm is discharged, it's considered deadly force, said David Klinger, professor of Criminology and Criminal Justice at the University of Missouri-St. Louis. Shooting to injure or maim someone wouldn't stop an aggressive subject, Klinger said, and officers are trying to stop the threat to their life, or the life of their partner or a citizen.

"Why would we want to injure or maim people?" he said. "It doesn't stop them."

Because of the potential risks, it would be "very difficult" to train officers to shoot to wound instead, Kelly said. If someone's life is in jeopardy, shooting to maim or injure will have little effect on the actions of the individual who is trying to kill, Klinger added.

 

Multiple Shots Are Often Necessary

Officers are trained to shoot with the understanding that one shot may not stop an aggressive subject, Klinger said.

There are only two ways to shut down the human body using deadly force, he said. The first is loss of blood, and the other is a shot to the central nervous system. Police officers are trained to shoot at center mass, in the torso area.

Klinger recalled an incident in 1981 when he was a young officer with the LAPD. The suspect had just stabbed his partner in the chest with a butcher knife, and immediately jumped on top of his partner and held the knife to his throat. Klinger called it a "rookie mistake" when he tried to take the knife away from the suspect.

Even after Klinger shot the suspect and the bullet pierced his left lung, aorta and right lung, the suspect still continued to fight for at least another 30 seconds, Klinger said. It took a total of six officers to subdue him and get him to drop the knife. If the man were armed with a gun instead of a knife, Klinger would have had to keep shooting because "he would have continued to be a threat."

"Even if an officer shoots [someone] with a lethal firearm, it may not stop a person," he said. "When there is a threat to life right now, or serious bodily injury, deadly force is the appropriate response."

 

So from that article - person with a bullet hole through both lungsand aortacontinued to fight and even with that injury took 6 officers to subdue and get him to drop the knife.    So one bullet that did massive internal damage did not stop him for at least 30 seconds, and still took 6 officers to stop the threat.  

 

So when someone threatens you, please feel free to practice your one bullet theory - maybe even only load one in the gun to start with just in case you get spooked and fire more then one.  Chances are the perp will probably beat you with your own gun as all you may do is piss him off.

 

 

 

 

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Always Best To Be Calm and Wait For The Facts - PTClakefan - 8/26/2020 9:01:47 PM
     Always Best To Be Calm and Wait For The Facts - GoneFishin - 8/27/2020 12:30:13 AM
          Always Best To Be Calm and Wait For The Facts - PTClakefan - 8/27/2020 7:23:51 AM
               Always Best To Be Calm and Wait For The Facts - Lifer - 8/27/2020 8:18:35 AM
                    Always Best To Be Calm and Wait For The Facts - PTClakefan - 8/27/2020 8:53:20 AM
                         Always Best To Be Calm and Wait For The Facts - phil - 8/27/2020 9:33:11 AM
               Always Best To Be Calm and Wait For The Facts - phil - 8/27/2020 8:24:24 AM
                    Another reason to keep firing... - wix - 8/27/2020 12:12:56 PM
                         Another reason to keep firing... - phil - 8/27/2020 2:00:26 PM
          Always Best To Be Calm and Wait For The Facts - MartiniMan - 8/27/2020 8:13:30 AM
               He is alive today - Lifer - 8/27/2020 8:20:30 AM
     Always Best To Be Calm and Wait For The Facts - weagle74 - 8/27/2020 9:24:01 AM
          Always Best To Be Calm and Wait For The Facts - MartiniMan - 8/27/2020 9:56:13 AM
               Always Best To Be Calm and Wait For The Facts - phil - 8/27/2020 2:01:32 PM
               Always Best To Be Calm and Wait For The Facts - Shortbus - 8/27/2020 2:47:43 PM
     Always Best To Be Calm and Wait For The Facts - Talullahhound - 8/27/2020 10:30:27 AM
          Always Best To Be Calm and Wait For The Facts - phil - 8/27/2020 2:04:29 PM
               Always Best To Be Calm and Wait For The Facts - Shortbus - 8/27/2020 5:07:46 PM



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